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  • Guest
    Guest replied
    Originally posted by Sergio View Post
    1. What about compared to YOU? (I'm still waiting to read about your contributions).
    Exactly HOW did you prove he is a hippo?
    2. So you do use "proprietary-friendly" licensed software... HYPOCRITE
    3. Here, take a look at some of the technics pioneered by OpenBSD: http://tech.yandex.com/events/ruBSD/2013/talks/103/
    1. I'm not a hippo and I'm not so important to talk about me. I've explained it to you already: he's saying terrorism is bad, but he's giving weapons to everyone for free same time. My contribution is to fight against bsd trolls at Phoronix forums. Is this enough?
    2. I don't know, maybe? I didn't check my distribution, but how does it make me a hypocrite? I don't support proprietary friendly software.
    3. It's hard to say which technics were pioneered by OpenBSD (ASLR was introduced by PaX for Linux), but it's nice interview.

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  • Sergio
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    Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
    1. No, you didn't. I don't care what he did, but compared to Linus or Stallman he did nothing. I just proved he's a hippo and you can't deny this. I would respect him if he wasn't talking so much bulltshit and if he wasn't using proprietary friendly license.
    2. I depend mostly on GPL software.
    3. Read an article and prove it's wrong. It's not surprising OpenBSD is rarely used on servers. If it was secure it would be used more often.
    1. What about compared to YOU? (I'm still waiting to read about your contributions).
    Exactly HOW did you prove he is a hippo?
    2. So you do use "proprietary-friendly" licensed software... HYPOCRITE
    3. Here, take a look at some of the technics pioneered by OpenBSD: http://tech.yandex.com/events/ruBSD/2013/talks/103/

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  • nslay
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    Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
    Too bad they're cannot prove what they have written. It looks like bsd fanboys bullshit. Nothing more. It's funny to consider OpenBSD to be more secure. As far as I know it doesn't even provide MAC and FreeBSD doesn't have ASLR. It's just laughable.
    Haha.

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  • Guest
    Guest replied
    Originally posted by nslay View Post
    Troll or not, funny you should suggest that. Here's something funny:



    SDF actually runs NetBSD and not OpenBSD. But it's still pretty funny considering your suggestion that OpenBSD (or any BSD) be less secure than Linux.

    That happened a decade ago. I don't really believe any of these systems are superior in security to any other by any large margin and I think it really depends mostly on the configuration and usage.
    Too bad they're cannot prove what they have written. It looks like bsd fanboys bullshit. Nothing more. It's funny to consider OpenBSD to be more secure. As far as I know it doesn't even provide MAC and FreeBSD doesn't have ASLR. It's just laughable.

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  • Guest
    Guest replied
    Originally posted by Sergio View Post
    - I've proved to you that Theo has done more for the community than you'll ever even dream of doing (by the way, what have you done?)
    - That should explain why YOU depend on BSD-licensed software to troll over here...
    - It is fairly obvious by now, but I'll say it: you are LIGHT YEARS away from having the knowledge to at least give an opinion about this.
    1. No, you didn't. I don't care what he did, but compared to Linus or Stallman he did nothing. I just proved he's a hippo and you can't deny this. I would respect him if he wasn't talking so much bulltshit and if he wasn't using proprietary friendly license.
    2. I depend mostly on GPL software.
    3. Read an article and prove it's wrong. It's not surprising OpenBSD is rarely used on servers. If it was secure it would be used more often.

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  • Stellarwind
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    It is amusing how Pawlerson (+his other accounts) manages to troll every BSD thread on phoronix and people are still falling for it.

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  • Guest
    Guest replied
    Originally posted by Cthulhux View Post
    That's not what licenses are for.
    What a brilliant thought! So tell me, what licenses are for and what's there to provide such protection?


    Prove it or you're wrong.
    It seems you have missed article I gave a link to.

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  • nslay
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    Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
    ...
    - OpenBSD is less secure than Linux and even FreeBSD.
    Troll or not, funny you should suggest that. Here's something funny:

    [03] HAS SDF EVER BEEN COMPROMISED?

    The first time was in 1991 when a person from France dialed in
    to our machine (then running SystemVr3.2 1.0) and was able to get
    root (administrative) access. He promptly notified us.

    During our short lived stint of attempting to run SDF under 'linux' on
    IBM compatibles the system was compromised a number of times, but the
    individuals who did it were much more secretive and malicious. For
    each case users were forced to change their passwords and patched
    software was installed (though this of course introduced other bugs
    that could be found later on)

    After dumping linux and x86 in favour of return to real computers, we
    have not had any major security issues. We are however, just as vigilant
    to be sure that your account here on SDF is safe and that any security
    issues are resolved quickly before public announcements (cert, et cetera)


    Please NOTE, an administrator will NEVER ask you for your password.
    Anyone impersonating an administrator is BREAKING THE LAW. You can
    report them to your local authorities if you identify them.
    SDF actually runs NetBSD and not OpenBSD. But it's still pretty funny considering your suggestion that OpenBSD (or any BSD) be less secure than Linux.

    That happened a decade ago. I don't really believe any of these systems are superior in security to any other by any large margin and I think it really depends mostly on the configuration and usage.

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  • Sergio
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    Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
    It seems it's yours only argument, because you, Sergio and any other bsd fanboy can't deny facts which have been said about bsd. Summing up the things bellow have been proven so far:

    - TdR is a hypocrite,
    - bsd which is an academic style license doesn't fit into modern world, because it doesn't provide any protection against competition,
    - OpenBSD is less secure than Linux and even FreeBSD.
    - I've proved to you that Theo has done more for the community than you'll ever even dream of doing (by the way, what have you done?)
    - That should explain why YOU depend on BSD-licensed software to troll over here...
    - It is fairly obvious by now, but I'll say it: you are LIGHT YEARS away from having the knowledge to at least give an opinion about this.

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  • Cthulhux
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    Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
    - bsd which is an academic style license doesn't fit into modern world, because it doesn't provide any protection against competition,
    That's not what licenses are for.

    Originally posted by Pawlerson View Post
    - OpenBSD is less secure than Linux and even FreeBSD.
    Prove it or you're wrong.

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