Shuttleworth Closes Bug #1, Microsoft's Market Share

[Calinou]

It would be a genius move! Hopefully it will happen. Office on Ubuntu would be great. Fuck that LibreOffice POS.

People still pay ?600+ for software?

[GreatEmerald]

No, they have not changed anything. Desktops stayed, parts of it are attacked by consoles. Tablets just tried to replace notebooks, but failed in some ways - show me tablet with exchangable battery xD. This whole modern roar is about nothing, exactly like roar of stereo 3D that comes and goes every decade. How is messaging gadget supposed to replace PC experience?

Mine's one: http://www.shopfujitsu.com/Q550/ Mind you, it uses a PowerVR chip... And no, it's not supposed to replace the PC experience in the slightest. It's supposed to replace the notebook experience. The actual notebook, paper and all, not notebook as in laptop.

[johnc]

What if MS is looking to bring Office 365 to Linux with an exclusive release for Ubuntu? MS seems to be eager to get on the subscription services bandwagon.

[brosis]

You should complain to nvidia for not providing viable/sane/OSS drivers for their crappy hardware.

Either that or upgrade to a radeon.

There is no sane driver for nvidia, except closed. What they should have done, is to create support channels for such opensource projects like nouveau and similar. Or ship closed source working drivers. Instead they shipped broken drivers without any support.

[brosis]

The personal computing market is now more broad than it was in 2004 with phones, tablets, and wearable computing now being out there.

They redefined the desktop to personal computing market.

No it has not! There were phones before 2004. Current tables and smartphones are nothing else but notebooks. Nothing changed.

In fact, the only "change" was due to Google acting right on reaping smartphone market from microsoft, but it did wrong by not using clean Linux and most important totally ignoring opensource in userspace.

No, they have not changed anything. Desktops stayed, parts of it are attacked by consoles. Tablets just tried to replace notebooks, but failed in some ways - show me tablet with exchangable battery xD. This whole modern roar is about nothing, exactly like roar of stereo 3D that comes and goes every decade. How is messaging gadget supposed to replace PC experience?

And I am sure he is catapulted in that position because Microsoft, being evil, has forced Canonical to employ him and make him their master. I don't say anything about closed source nvidia because I never used nvidia drivers since I don't have a nvidia card. What I do say is that the closed source drivers are better performace-wise than anything open source and for right now open source guys should learn to play along with the big boys if they want a chance on the market instead of complaining that AMD and nvidia don't open source their drivers.

Yes, I agree here. They are upon some agreement, probably Ubuntu will be either sold to MS, or MS will substitute all other Linuxes on servers with Ubuntu server in exchange for serious Linux infestation with microsoft or microsoft-controlled.
But I disagree on the rest, because I like my opensource big boys - gutenprint for epson, radeon and intel for corresponding hardware! They perform way better than closed source parts, so closed source has to quit attaching itself to everything that is critical yet feeding on opensource and learn to play with big boys!

[smitty3268]

IMO, this phone thing is their last-ditch effort to make it. If this doesn't work, they're done. The writing is on the wall. There's just no point in sustaining such a huge enterprise like Canonical with so little progress.

Unfortunately I see their phone as being in a similar market position as the desktop. There are bigger players and much better products. I think it's going to be a "for fans only" kind of phone.

I think i agree - although they won't necessarily just shut down. But if the mobile stuff doesn't pan out I definitely see Shuttleworth trying to sell the company, and who knows what the new owners would focus on. Maybe keep working on mobile, or maybe somebody out there would try to turn it back towards making desktop linux profitable. Dismantling the entire company is 1 possibility.

[johnc]

IMO, this phone thing is their last-ditch effort to make it. If this doesn't work, they're done. The writing is on the wall. There's just no point in sustaining such a huge enterprise like Canonical with so little progress.

Unfortunately I see their phone as being in a similar market position as the desktop. There are bigger players and much better products. I think it's going to be a "for fans only" kind of phone.

[smitty3268]

The other day he was extolling the virtues of Microsoft. I think it's just another step in Canonical abandoning the desktop altogether. Or kind of a round-about way of admitting defeat.

Yeah, I don't think Canonical cares about the desktop anymore, they're focusing on phones and tablets now.

[amehaye]

These days I sadly find less and less reasons to cheer for Ubuntu.

Mark and Canonical should take a lesson from history.
Look at what happened to the companies who buddied up with Microsoft. Novell, SCO, Xandros, Linspire... All in the recycle bin. Nokia might follow the same path. Red Hat, on the other hand, didn't bend its knees and is prospering. Google is in no bad shape as well.

Now to which group does Canonical want to belong?

[droidhacker]

If ubuntu want to be user friendly, why they continue to ship this with nvidia free drivers? It's a shit..., mi nvidia gt 670 can't try ubuntu on a live usb because unity crash every time. :/ BAD BAD, They need to learn about pclinux os.

You should complain to nvidia for not providing viable/sane/OSS drivers for their crappy hardware.

Either that or upgrade to a radeon.