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Could you please stop with this useless trolling five posts zomg are you such attention whore even in real life?
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Originally posted by ChrisXY View PostSo what?
Good for me.
Yes. Apple doesn't sell notebooks from that class at all.
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Originally posted by AdamW View PostIt weighs 8.6lb, which is way above the MBP class, let alone Series 9 / X230 / Vaio Z. The MBP Retina weighs 4.46lb. That's such a huge difference they're barely worth comparing; the Clevo is a luggable/desktop replacement, the Retina is a true portable. There are reasons someone would want to buy a luggable, for sure, but you can't really directly compare the two, they're just in different classes.
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Originally posted by kraftman View PostAnd you're basing on what? Every person I know doesn't care about their hardware. There are much better hardware vendors and I'd love to see how Linux and OS X performs on non apple hardware.
1) Care very much about their hardware
2) Often use Apple technologies because of the quality of the hardware
Where are these better hardware vendors? Sony was the closest I have seen in higher end quality PC hardware, and their costs are similar to Apple's. Who else? Name the vendors and their models which have similar/same characteristics.
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Originally posted by Michael View PostAs said in the article, the more interesting information will come once the new ad campaigns start on Phoronix -- since the ads so far this month are shit and so if I publish the rMBP details right now, I'll just lose money when factoring in the Apple hardware costs.
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Originally posted by stefantalpalaru View PostMichael, I enjoy your benchmarks (and software) as much as the next Linux user, but why would you assume that paying for overpriced Apple hardware is justified by "much sought after Linux hardware testing"? Whenever I buy hardware I check for Linux support first and the ability to replace components is a close second. Shiny gear I can't maintain myself doesn't interest me. Have you thought about creating a benchmarking site only for Apple victims?
Oh wait, it does not exist.
Now roll out the arguments of why no one needs that. I expect it.
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Originally posted by 89c51 View PostThat thing makes my eyes hurt. And its huge.
The latest Z is an interesting piece of kit but i don't think it is near the MBPr. Leaving the retina aside Lenovo makes some interesting stuff (the X1 carbon is nice), Sony also (Z and the S are ok) but they don't have the poise of apples designs.
Admittedly now I review the specs, the current Z and the MBP Retina are much closer than I thought, effectively identical in performance; the Z is substantially lighter at 2.5lb vs. 4.5lb, which is very important to me, and what caused me to dismiss the Retina after I'd been pretty interested in it from the rumours. The Z is still comfortably superior to non-Retina MBPs, especially the 13" to which it's obviously directly comparable, in all important technical aspects - it's faster, lighter, and has a much better display. I always want to have a powerful, fairly small, light laptop with a good screen and decent battery life, and for the last few years, the Z has been that; the MBP line has consistently been slower and heavier and had worse screens (note the Z's screen is matte, which is really nice; another easy-to-overlook feature of the Z is that it has a very small screen bezel, so the actual 'rectangular' dimensions of the Z line are smaller than most 13" laptops, inc. the MBP - I find the rectangular dimensions much more important than thickness, because they determine the size of bag you can carry the system in). The Retina bumps up the specs (but also the price, it's now $1k more than the Z at base price) and the display, but it's still relatively heavy (admittedly 4.5lb isn't bad at all for a 15" laptop in absolute terms, but it's 2lb heavier than the current model Z), and they haven't made a 13" one yet. I'll be interested to see what they come up with if they do make a 13" Retina.
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