Why Should You Use FreeBSD? Here's Some Reasons

[LightBit]

Not true. It can happen on specific configurations. The same on Linux. When comes to Linux the 3.3 kernel promised to fix this. There's no ETA for Windows or FreeBSD.

How does (hardware) configuration affect on scheduler?
Yes, 3.3 really improved it.

It's not a mystery Firefox wasn't too optimized for Linux in the past. Furthermore this is about java script and not SQL which is much smoother with Firefox under Linux.

Also SQLite isn't optimised for Windows. From my experiences Firefox is overly faster on Windows.

Their mailing list quoted in this article is a great proof. Another one is foolBSD forums.

Their mailing list quoted in this article shows trolling and definitely not ignorance.
What about when Linux was young?

[blacknova]

Are you sure it isn't a memory leak in an app that you are using?

I do lots of recordings in MacOSX using significant memory, including on occasion having to 'bounce tracks/mixdown' so that i could ditch some plugins, in order to free up memory. (to not do this would result in using all CPU and RAM). I've never had issues where i had to reboot.

What kind of computing are you doing, and what version of MAcOSX are you using? (out of curiosity)

cheerz

That is not entirely impossible.

My main system usage is iOS app development. So normal application working set is something like - Adium,Skype, FF, Thunderbird, Xcode, some dashes and of course apps running by default like Finder.
Everything is running on MBP13" mid 2010 (Core2 duo model) with 4gb RAM. OSX is latest Lion (10.7.4 i think).

[ninez]

The only mess in OSX I know is memory management subsystem. And this bite hard. Under memory pressure conditions I had to reboot system a couple times a day, or use some obscure tools like 'purge'.

Are you sure it isn't a memory leak in an app that you are using?

I do lots of recordings in MacOSX using significant memory, including on occasion having to 'bounce tracks/mixdown' so that i could ditch some plugins, in order to free up memory. (to not do this would result in using all CPU and RAM). I've never had issues where i had to reboot.

What kind of computing are you doing, and what version of MAcOSX are you using? (out of curiosity)

cheerz

[ninez]

As the final product it isn't that bad. It's a mess from a technical point of view (maybe except sound stack). It still doesn't support OpenGL4.2 and it had serious issues with graphic performance, because of their home made changes. You probably remember that OS X file system had to emulate POSIX and it's an utter crap? Furthermore, while it's a cluster of different operating system parts it gives an impression it's a mess. But like I said as the final product from end user perspective it's ok.

About HFS+ - you mean this thread;

http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?13683-Mac-OS-X-10-5-vs-Ubuntu-8-10-Benchmarks/page10

Where you go on about how ext3 is better than HFS+ but didn't even know what you are talking about (claiming HFS+ can't be case-sensitive, etc), and then when you are given links to technical links, you then go on to say 'you don't trust apple, and claim they delete BSOD posts from their forum' ...lol ...interesting. As For HFS+ being 'utter crap' i disagree. It has been very usable, very stable and i have NEVER EVER had issues on a Mac i've ever owned, nor anyone else i've known - including about 3-4 years ago, when i was servicing Apple computers in my spare time for cash (for an Apple-licensed computer store/distributor). To say HFS+ is utter crap would entail nearly every single apple computer having issues and every single client i had at the time, would have had major problems... So i'm not going to take your word on this, being as in previous posts you claimed things that ANYONE who has ever formatted an HFS+ partition (using disk utility) would have known was completely false.

The OpenGL 4.2 is valid though. They do need to address this, but it has never been an issue for me personally, but i'm not a gamer or doing 3d modelling on my Mac. It's mainly used For Adobe CS5, VMware Fusion and proaudio. ~ All of which work great, and the lack of OpenGL 4.2 doesn't seem to slow down my H/W accelerated VMs (at all). As for Sound - MacOSX does this better than any of OS, period. CoreAudio is how sound should be done, straight up.

You also really haven't said much to support this idea that because they recycled code, it is a mess. Everything is well-defined and well-documented and works well. All of my friends who develop on a Mac love it. They hate using Windows or Linux for the same shit, after getting a Mac. So if it was really such a 'cluster fuck' i imagine no one would want to be developing on that platform, and we wouldn't see such rapid development of apps for the platform (including iOS).

[kraftman]

Ports provides up-to-date packages that can be finely tuned without waiting for the next November or April to go from Samba 3.5 to 3.6. That is something that is not provided in any automated way by Linux. Or did you want a strawman argument to match your own?

I think he was saying about things like dbus, udisk, udev etc. Arch Linux also provides things you have mentioned and if BSD ports provides the same they're much less stable than Debian or RHEL. So BSD with up to date ports sucks for servers.

[kraftman]

now, if you care to give some reasons why MacOSX is so messy, i am all ears.

As the final product it isn't that bad. It's a mess from a technical point of view (maybe except sound stack). It still doesn't support OpenGL4.2 and it had serious issues with graphic performance, because of their home made changes. You probably remember that OS X file system had to emulate POSIX and it's an utter crap? Furthermore, while it's a cluster of different operating system parts it gives an impression it's a mess. But like I said as the final product from end user perspective it's ok.

[kraftman]

If it would be design, everyone would have problems.

Not true. It can happen on specific configurations. The same on Linux. When comes to Linux the 3.3 kernel promised to fix this. There's no ETA for Windows or FreeBSD.

Yes, but datatbases are small.

http://www.tuxradar.com/content/benchmarked-firefox-javascript-linux-and-windows-and-its-not-pretty

It's not a mystery Firefox wasn't too optimized for Linux in the past. Furthermore this is about java script and not SQL which is much smoother with Firefox under Linux.

Still no proof.

Their mailing list quoted in this article is a great proof. Another one is foolBSD forums.

[yogi_berra]

I thought one of the main reason to use BSD was a lack of these "automated brainfucks", now it is a nice feature that provides an easy way to do something? Hmm .. let's see, so when something is automated in Linux it's evil and wrong but when things get automated in BSD it provides an easy way to do said things, what an interesting concept! ( Almost a brainfuck in itself a would say )

Ports provides up-to-date packages that can be finely tuned without waiting for the next November or April to go from Samba 3.5 to 3.6. That is something that is not provided in any automated way by Linux. Or did you want a strawman argument to match your own?

So they openly dislike people who care about software freedom and work hard to protect users from the abuses so common for proprietary software? They do not mind their code being taken, have nasty features added and then used to oppress users with no recourse available to them but they do have a problem when it gets released under the GPL for free and for anyone to modify as they wish with guarantees it won't get used against others in proprietary sw?

Out of curiosity, how often do you find yourself recompiling packages or examining sourcecode? If this number is 0, as I suspect it is, your argument is just bullshit posturing for cool points. Knock it off.

[blacknova]

now, if you care to give some reasons why MacOSX is so messy, i am all ears.

The only mess in OSX I know is memory management subsystem. And this bite hard. Under memory pressure conditions I had to reboot system a couple times a day, or use some obscure tools like 'purge'.

[ninez]

I'm impressed. How did you get MacOS to run on an Apple II?

LOL. yup, i kind of combined 2 separate thoughts there, it probably should have read something like " i've been using MacOS for years, *and Apple computers* dating all the way back to the Apple II." funny shit.

cheerz