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  • soupbowl
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    lol, I'm not mad, but keep troll'n. I am actually entertained.

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  • DaemonFC
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    Originally posted by soupbowl View Post
    Sorry, I should say the phoronix community.
    Of course the Linux community only cares about Linux, I'll pardon your slip up. FreeBSD: "Dammit, quit improving Linux, it makes us look bad!" "Why can't you be happy using interfaces from 1999!?!?"
    "You're so rude, bunch of meanies!"

    PS: For the love of God, even Windows has changed their video driver interfaces four times since 1999! Grow up!

    The difference is that Linux deletes obsolete crap and leaves BSD holding the bag. I can see why you're mad.
    Last edited by DaemonFC; 19 November 2011, 07:18 PM.

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  • DaemonFC
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    Originally posted by soupbowl View Post
    The linux community is no longer Open source friendly, they are only linux friendly, they are just like windows junkies.
    I laugh that you post a link about non linux kde users are less then 1% of their user base as some sort of point. When a company says
    1% of their users are linux users, you'll scream and shout that they need to support your OS.
    If you want to take ownership of KDE on FreeBSD, nothing stops you. They sure won't. They're saying that it represents so much work for only a few users that it stretches their resources thin. Instead of spinning their wheels supporting a bad operating system that is totally ancient as far as desktop use goes, they have decided to focus on Linux. I can't see where they made a mistake.

    If something was going to triple your expenditure of effort for half a percent more users and lead to a bad experience everywhere from trying to support the subset of Linux functionality that exists on FreeBSD, would you do it?

    To answer your other question, I don't particularly care where proprietary software developers shove their code, but I could make suggestions.
    Last edited by DaemonFC; 19 November 2011, 07:12 PM.

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  • soupbowl
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    Sorry, I should say the phoronix community.

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  • XorEaxEax
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    Originally posted by soupbowl View Post
    The linux community is no longer Open source friendly, they are only linux friendly
    Based upon what?

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  • soupbowl
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    The linux community is no longer Open source friendly, they are only linux friendly, they are just like windows junkies.
    I laugh that you post a link about non linux kde users are less then 1% of their user base as some sort of point. When a company says
    1% of their users are linux users, you'll scream and shout that they need to support your OS.

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  • DaemonFC
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    Originally posted by XorEaxEax View Post
    No, they use code ACCORDING to the licence it's under, they give back according to their preferred licence. If you see yourself as a BSD advocate then why the hell would you argue against the use of BSD code in GPL projects? Saying it's fine if BSD code is used in proprietary projects while complaining about it being used in GPL projects makes no sense.


    Then you must be totally against proprietary code, not to mention commercial proprietary code. Hell, even the BSD licence DEMANDS that you keep the copyright appropriation, I mean how can they claim ownership of numbers?... absurd was it?
    The amusing thing about the minimal protections of the BSD license, wrt copyright preservation, is that companies like Apple can comply with the license by putting the copyright somewhere you'll never see it and calling it OS X. Then nobody who ever uses OS X will see it or know Apple didn't invent it.

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  • XorEaxEax
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    Originally posted by Shining Arcanine View Post
    They take whatever they want, they never give anything back and then they complain about other people wanting to do that to them.
    No, they use code ACCORDING to the licence it's under, they give back according to their preferred licence. If you see yourself as a BSD advocate then why the hell would you argue against the use of BSD code in GPL projects? Saying it's fine if BSD code is used in proprietary projects while complaining about it being used in GPL projects makes no sense.

    Originally posted by Shining Arcanine View Post
    With that said, the entire basis of the GPL and other restrictive licenses is the idea that people can claim ownership of numbers, which is absurd. Software is little much than a bunch of polynomials. Telling people what they can and cannot do with polynomials is absurd.
    Then you must be totally against proprietary code, not to mention commercial proprietary code. Hell, even the BSD licence DEMANDS that you keep the copyright appropriation, I mean how can they claim ownership of numbers?... absurd was it?

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  • DaemonFC
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    Originally posted by Shining Arcanine View Post
    DaemonFC, you should design your own hardware if it bothers you.
    I switched to all AMD years ago. Linux handles it fine, FreeBSD gives me a nice fat VESA framebuffer driver with 1368 x 768 display resolution on my $400 GPU and my $300 monitor. Boo.

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  • Shining Arcanine
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    Originally posted by DaemonFC View Post
    I think I've said everything I want to say about the BSDs, if my point hasn't come across by this point I'm either doing something wrong or preaching to people who don't want to listen. I'd guess the second part.

    Nvidia as a company disgusts me, their driver might be decent, but it is proprietary and they actively oppose any attempts to make it work at all with freely licensed open source software. The political activities of their senior management is another prong in my two-pronged "I don't buy Nvidia because..." argument. Their board is like a bunch of stodgy old cigar smoking villains from a James Bond movie who do things like take company money to hand out to the theocrats in California to help pass Proposition 8.
    DaemonFC, you should design your own hardware if it bothers you.

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