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Originally posted by Apopas View PostBecause this happens with every distro, Gentoo is the fastest by a margin of 90%.
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Originally posted by squirrl View PostAnd where are your supporting facts that my statement was opinionated?
FreeBSD users and developers know my statement to be factual.
The FreeBSD memory manager is known as one of worst in all operating systems, it has outdated design and the decades old bugs that are considered features. All throughout the operating system there is a lack of quality and feels slapped together, the fact they can call it stable speaks volumes about the gross incompetence that goes on behind the scenes of FreeBSD development. -- Dr Steve Brule
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I thought we, as a species, had already discussed the supposed performance advantages of Gentoo more than enough. I mean, yeah, I can understand people with less than 10 posts coming up with the same issues over and over. Fair enough, the ever lasting September and all that jazz. But the old guard...? I clearly remember some point in the past where some Gentoo users publicly admitted the reasons why they love their distro had not much to do with speed and more with ease of customisation...or something. And for all we know, benchmarks do nothing but suggest again and again that different compilation options have various effects depending on the code being baked.
Anyway, if some random Gentoo user wants to keep singing the same old same old, at least be honest and word it like something around the lines of
Gentoo is the fastest distro in the solar system by a 1337%(*)
(*)Terms and Conditions apply. As compared to a standard broken Ubuntu installation on a limited number of tests using a custom version of GCC doped with 0.02% extract of lizard liver and 2 ppm virgin blood.
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I tell you what Gentoo is, but before you must actually have used Gentoo. Otherwise all you make are wild claims, because Gentoo is different.
Gentoo is based around its package manager - portage. Portage operates on recipes,called ebuilds, recipes contain standartized instructions(EAPI) and take input parameters(FLAGS) which may or may not contain target architecture, configuration, locale etc. All recipes are stored in tree, called portage tree and are checksumed. List of recipes is called profile, profiles are mostly used to instantly inject configuration - anything from base system to complete desktop. There is main tree and user is free to overlay his own or 3rd party on top of it. Portage supports binary packages - prebuild with specific settings and supports binary profiles, making large part of system behave like your average ubuntu and all additional software installed via recipe parsing (depending on what is contained there it may be and often is source code compilation).
The problem with Gentoo is that the project has grown in size so much, that its hard to overlook and maintain. Most source of the problems is large official portage tree.
Another problem is that Gentoo may be hard to install and use, because it allows so much. But when person learn to use the possibilities, he/she understands that can hardly be simplified without reduction of functionality.
The tests on Phoronix (Calculate Linux) are partially valid and partially invalid. Calculate, distribution that uses Gentoo and its system, although delivering complete system, does not mean this system has to stay complete.
In fact, there should be several tests - one in stock Calculate configuration and another after make.conf has modified CFLAGS with "native" instead of "x86-64" and "emerge -e world" was issued, effectively reemerging all packages with instruction set detected for this CPU. THAT would be Gentoo, THEN by comparing stock and non-stock you will see how Gentoo(or general source-based) may improve or not, speed.
Everything else is BS.
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Originally posted by deanjo View PostYou know that is complete BS. In most cases if there is a difference it is marginal at best and that is on a "properly configured" gentoo if there is any difference at all. It's more like a case of Gentoo may win in 5% of tests by a margin of less then 3%. In a case of PTS where it downloads and compiles a majority of it's tests on every distro that margin becomes even smaller. Gentoo may had an edge a long time ago when distros were dealing with multiple brands and generations of 32 bit processors but those days are long gone.
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Why do linux fanboys intensely hate BSDs so much, they act like its as bad or worse then windows. I use Freebsd daily and love it and many of its features, I also use arch linux for the same reason. You don't have to choose an OS and run with it as your only god lol.
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Originally posted by soupbowl View PostWhy do linux fanboys intensely hate BSDs so much, they act like its as bad or worse then windows.
Why do windows fanboys intensely hate linux/bsd so much, they act like......
What part of 'fanboy' don't you understand?
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