FreeBSD Working On S0ix Sleep State Support For Newer Laptops

[phoronix]

Phoronix: FreeBSD Working On S0ix Sleep State Support For Newer Laptops

FreeBSD is working on S0ix standby power state support for better handling modern Intel and AMD laptops running this popular BSD operating system...

https://www.phoronix.com/news/FreeBSD-S0ix-Goal

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

Definitely important to meet their goal. I remember reading this AnandTech Haswell architecture article with the new S0ix sleep states over 12 years ago...

https://www.anandtech.com/show/6355/intels-haswell-architecture/3

[kpedersen]

Definitely important to meet their goal. I remember reading this AnandTech Haswell architecture article with the new S0ix sleep states over 12 years ago...

Indeed. We have been fortunate that so far, decent hardware allows us to enable standard sleep via the BIOS/UEFI but there is no guarantee that won't change in the future.

[kiffmet]

Who is mad enough to run FreeBSD on a modern laptop?

[StarterX4]

Who is mad enough to run FreeBSD on a modern laptop?

FreeBSD devs, fanbois, and ultra nerds, just to run it for fun.

[mb_q]

Yet another talk dedicated to all thinking that DeviceTrees are worse than ACPI.

I honestly miss S3, it's so nice that it survived on desktops..

[kpedersen]

Who is mad enough to run FreeBSD on a modern laptop?

Who is mad enough to even own a modern laptop. Those things are cheap and fragile as hell.

Most of us have horded up a lifetimes supply of ~2010 ThinkPads.

FreeBSD devs

Well, there is that certain internal, self-deprecating meme that most FreeBSD developers run macOS
(but since aarch64 macOS builds require online DRM activation now, I think that is becoming quite rare)

[richardnpaul]

Indeed. We have been fortunate that so far, decent hardware allows us to enable standard sleep via the BIOS/UEFI but there is no guarantee that won't change in the future.

Erm Asus would like word, because their Asus ROG Strix 15 2022 does not have any option to change the sleep state and if you go to sleep in Linux there's a very high chance that you might have to pull the battery to get a functioning laptop again. I've set suspend to hibernate in Ubuntu 🫤

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

Indeed. We have been fortunate that so far, decent hardware allows us to enable standard sleep via the BIOS/UEFI but there is no guarantee that won't change in the future.

Unfortunately I haven't really seen this option in many years, since shortly after Haswell debuted. I don't think the 8th gen Intel business laptops / workstations I have laying around from Lenovo or HP have a toggle for this in UEFI. The nice business class Alder Lake laptop I'm typing this on doesn't. S3 support is effectively dead on laptops these days .

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

Who is mad enough to even own a modern laptop. Those things are cheap and fragile as hell.

Most of us have horded up a lifetimes supply of ~2010 ThinkPads.

Let's be serious. Very few people are going to be happy with decade+ old laptops with dual core Intel CPUs these days, unless that's their only choice.