FreeBSD 13.1-RC1 Pulls In OpenZFS 2.1, WiFi Updates

[kylew77]

Linux jails mostly work. Right now (havent tried this beta yet). What doesnt seem to work rn - is Linux networking from inside jailed Linux towards host/outside (protocol not supported error). Just ping smth from Linux jail and you will get an error.
When you are willing to limit yourself to Linux chroot, its usable.

Always good to see you aht0. I haven't upgraded to 13.x yet, but I know there is a way to install Chrome inside an Ubuntu jail with a script and it seems to work just fine from what I've been told, is that just using a chroot and not a jail then?

[k1e0x]

Linux jails mostly work. Right now (havent tried this beta yet). What doesnt seem to work rn - is Linux networking from inside jailed Linux towards host/outside (protocol not supported error). Just ping smth from Linux jail and you will get an error.
When you are willing to limit yourself to Linux chroot, its usable.

Uh well yeah ping.. do you have raw sockets enabled..? because ping won't work with freebsd as a guest in a jail unless you enable it. I'm assuming you are and there may be a problem there but I do know regular TCP networking works and as said you can run a Linux browser in it (if you want Netflix or something)

[k1e0x]

But Steam uses Proton, not just WINE. Also, I don't know how on FreeBSD, but WINE on MacOS is not as good as on Linux (users have the paid version of WINE - CrossOver - with specific patches and features for macOS, e.g. translating 32bit-->64bit, as macOS doesn't have 32bit support anymore).

You are right on that but I take that more of Apple's fault and not Wine's. -- There may be a way to pull the 32bit libs out of Mojave.. hmm.. Either way yes.. but Wine's experience on FreeBSD / MacOS isn't bad and hopefully the project doesn't forget about them.

I'm not sure if 32 to 64 is a proprietary part of crossover or not. I don't believe it is, but it could be. I wouldn't be too surprised if some Linux distro's started to drop 32bit soon as well.

[Ladis]

You are right on that but I take that more of Apple's fault and not Wine's. -- There may be a way to pull the 32bit libs out of Mojave.. hmm.. Either way yes.. but Wine's experience on FreeBSD / MacOS isn't bad and hopefully the project doesn't forget about them.

I'm not sure if 32 to 64 is a proprietary part of crossover or not. I don't believe it is, but it could be. I wouldn't be too surprised if some Linux distro's started to drop 32bit soon as well.

I don't care what you believe in. The translation is in Crossover and WINE is implementing their own way. The problem with missing 32bit libs is not only macOS, but also Linux, FreeBSD etc., so don't blame Apple. If fact, Apple allows you to take the 32bit libs from the previous OS version, try copying anything binary in Linux among versions