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  • aht0
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    Originally posted by Istanbull View Post
    I did get drm-kmod working on 13 stable very well with no issues, it's just helloSystem which don't seem to have the support going on.
    Good to hear. Took me a bit to figure out myself (bought Ryzen 5 Pro 4650G for home server) which I knew was "Vega 7" or "Vega 8". As I was using also Vega 10 discrete card in another machine with seemingly good hw support, "no screen"-error initially baffled me. Kinda ass-backwards that Vega with a smaller digit is actually newer iteration.

    Funnier part of Renoir APU's: Windows 10 LTSB and Windows 2016 has no gpu support for it.

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  • Istanbull
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    Originally posted by aht0 View Post

    Renoir APU? Install your favorite desktop on vanilla FreeBSD 13-STABLE and use drm-devel-kmod (or clone, compile and install drm-5.7-stable from github repo). That would start up your display. No clue as to what version of FreeBSD base has helloSystem been built on, maybe that drm module would be installable on helloSystem as well. Necessary kernel work for Renoir appeared in STABLE and should get to 13.1-RELEASE (which ain't out yet) so you kind of need to use 13-STABLE right now for that.
    I did get drm-kmod working on 13 stable very well with no issues, it's just helloSystem which don't seem to have the support going on.

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  • aht0
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    Originally posted by Istanbull View Post
    I was pretty disappointed that helloSystem did not boot on my Ryzen 4500U APU thinkpad, the hardware support doesn't seem to be all that there. These guys seem to know what they are doing so I will follow.
    Renoir APU? Install your favorite desktop on vanilla FreeBSD 13-STABLE and use drm-devel-kmod (or clone, compile and install drm-5.7-stable from github repo). That would start up your display. No clue as to what version of FreeBSD base has helloSystem been built on, maybe that drm module would be installable on helloSystem as well. Necessary kernel work for Renoir appeared in STABLE and should get to 13.1-RELEASE (which ain't out yet) so you kind of need to use 13-STABLE right now for that.
    Last edited by aht0; 21 February 2022, 01:56 PM.

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  • leech
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    Originally posted by JackLilhammers View Post

    Actually, mac os is a certified unix
    Heh, they don't have great company...
    https://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/ SCO is on that list

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  • JackLilhammers
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    Originally posted by lumks View Post

    If thats true it wouldnt be a problem, as UNIX is not a real thing anymore, but a phylosophy. Nobody uses UNIX, but an Operating System that tries to life up to the UNIX mentality. It's much like "My new shirt is made with oldschool t-shirts from the 70s in mind", vs. "My new Aquidas Shirt is redo-version of a popular Adidas Shirt you cant buy anymore"
    Actually, mac os is a certified unix

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  • lumks
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    Originally posted by hipower View Post

    I recently heard Linus Torvalds himself describe Linux as still nothing more than a Unix clone. Food for thought.
    If thats true it wouldnt be a problem, as UNIX is not a real thing anymore, but a phylosophy. Nobody uses UNIX, but an Operating System that tries to life up to the UNIX mentality. It's much like "My new shirt is made with oldschool t-shirts from the 70s in mind", vs. "My new Aquidas Shirt is redo-version of a popular Adidas Shirt you cant buy anymore"

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  • hipower
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    Originally posted by lumks View Post
    I do not understand the intention behind all of this "Lets create a copy of XY" while, if you think a minute about it it always ends in a "Copy of XY without any support from outside, with no polish, with no apps, with almost no testing, with no usage for an enduser".

    For real, create something own, something that is not to different from todays world of computing, but is an own thing. Like Fedora does, like ElementaryOS does. No one cares about a "free clone", users want "usable alternatives"
    I recently heard Linus Torvalds himself describe Linux as still nothing more than a Unix clone. Food for thought.

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  • logical
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    Originally posted by leech View Post

    Ha ha, one of the new features of Monterey is that you can now change the colors of the Mouse cursor... something AmigaOS has had since 1.3 at least, potentially earlier. Oh and you can do 4 color mouse pointers. macOS can only do two...
    https://www.imore.com/how-customize-...macos-monterey
    Not only that, but you could easily design your own mouse pointer.

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  • dfyt
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    Originally posted by Luke_Wolf View Post

    Upper hand in graphics? you mean the one that was always worse than Windows? You mean the one that for most of the past decade has been slower than Linux's? You mean the one that didn't pick up mouse cursor warping until after Linux? Mac only ever had an upper hand in graphics because of the PPC hardware being better for floating point than early x86, and even then they weren't the best choice for that era, that would be the Amiga.
    Well Davinci Resolve runs WAY WAY faster than Windows or Linux when it comes to it's GPU assisted special effects. (Not talking about video encode / decode but fusion). On my Hackin fusion renders almost realtime, windows about 6-8x slower and Linux around 3x slower. AMD has certainly tweaked metal. I would LOVE if Linux got the same perf but would run a BSD OS if running native mac apps were possible.

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  • betty567
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    Originally posted by Ironmask View Post
    it's disappointing they're using every outdated and insecure language as possible for new projects instead of adopting Rust.
    The myth that Rust is a superior language to "unsafe" C and C++. Rust has not been proven, no world-class software project uses Rust, unless you count the death-spiraling Firefox. Rust jobs make up about 0.0000001% of software engineering jobs as far as I can see. But zealots everywhere try to convince everybody that Rust is the perfect tool for every job, with no downsides.

    Meanwhile, all of the most elite software engineers in the world are getting by just fine with "unsafe" C and C++. But, but, but... All of the memory leaks and security holes in the world would disappear if everybody ported their code to Rust!!!! Yeah, right, I trust myself to call free() for every malloc() more than I trust any garbage collector, because I have the lived experience of using both extensively. If developers are not using the standard diagnostic tools to identify and fix these issues, that is really a reflection of them and not the language, and it's silly to even suggest that Rust can provide perfect outcomes for incompetent and careless developers.

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