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Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
https://news.netcraft.com/archives/2...er-survey.html
https://w3techs.com/technologies/ove...erating_system
Really I am not that sure that Microsoft still holds 25% There is for sure a downwards trend in Microsoft Windows usage in servers. The numbers say somewhere between 10% and 25% with more of the stats numbers being closer to 10 percent for Windows.
If anything MS did know back in the 80:ies how important it would be for them to get a monopoly on the desktop and what it would mean for them in the server space. Which is why it's so foolish to just brush of the "but they only did the bad things back then" because they still reap the benefits of their old predatory behaviour (not saying that this is your position, it just had to be said).
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Originally posted by F.Ultra View PostWebservers are not the only servers in town. There are lots of enterprises running MS SQL, Exchange. Since they usually run Windows on desktop they more or less also have to run at least one Windows server as AD, which means that they just as well can run one more for Exchange and one more for Sharepoint and the train is on (since we already have to have in-house expertise on Windows server for those reasons then we just as well run every other server on Windows as well).
Learn about Microsoft Entra ID (formerly Azure Active Directory) a cloud identity and access management solution that safeguards your data.
F.Ultra the reality is azure cloud services have got rid of a lot of windows servers in business for what you described. Yes Azure has not deployed as many servers as the cloud service has removed that used to AD, MS SQL and Exchange.
Yes when you look out side web you also see that Microsoft may not be 25% of the market in servers any more. Different things Microsoft has done has reduced their numbers.
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A funny thing at the company I work for is that there is a 50/50 split between Windows Server and Linux servers that runs our customers services. It's around 2000 servers. Our workforce however, consist of 80/20, Windows/Linux-technicans..
I still wonder when the Windows-customers will start to ask if we can save them a license or two, or if MS SQL is really the only database in the world?
Then I'm reminded once again of Active Directory and that the customers users got Windows on their computers, even if they only work with one application, which very well could be run in a browser.
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Simple fact is AD / GPO is pretty easy to use, very stable and well understood by a huge amount of sys admins meaning staffing is easier. If there are alternative products that meet the brief then they need far more publicity!
Not to mention the amount of software houses which develop for a windows environment only.
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Originally posted by oiaohm View Post
Except this has also changed. https://pnet.com.au/exchange-server-vs-office-365/
Learn about Microsoft Entra ID (formerly Azure Active Directory) a cloud identity and access management solution that safeguards your data.
F.Ultra the reality is azure cloud services have got rid of a lot of windows servers in business for what you described. Yes Azure has not deployed as many servers as the cloud service has removed that used to AD, MS SQL and Exchange.
Yes when you look out side web you also see that Microsoft may not be 25% of the market in servers any more. Different things Microsoft has done has reduced their numbers.
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Originally posted by NathanG View PostSimple fact is AD / GPO is pretty easy to use, very stable and well understood by a huge amount of sys admins meaning staffing is easier. If there are alternative products that meet the brief then they need far more publicity!
Not to mention the amount of software houses which develop for a windows environment only.
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Originally posted by F.Ultra View PostWell all I can say is that so far not a single one of our customers that use the Windows version of our applications/services have asked about the Linux variants, new customers seem to have a higher chance of asking for Linux (at least it feels that way) but the old ones have not converted. This in the financial sector.
Having worked as Linux admin a lot I can tell you there are a lot of cases a legacy application will be run in a Windows virtual machine only to be replaced. So old ones not asking about Linux version could be a sign of problem.
Please remember just because you can see active directory does not mean the company is running a windows server for it. The most common reason for a person like me to be running a windows server is WSUS yes that is right to manage windows update system because windows is a jackass for screwing itself up and to control this you need to be able to blacklist updates.
Originally posted by F.Ultra View PostNot to mention that as a developer you can get "fancy" Microsoft certifications and attend various courses to keep up with new features. Never gonna see that happen with say Gentoo or Debian.From Kubernetes to blockchain to Linux training, explore the full list of Linux Foundation Training and Certification offerings.
Except that does happen with Linux. You can do courses to keep up on the new features with Linux. Gets really expensive really quickly.
Yes the Linux courses don't focus on a particular distribution of Linux in most cases. This is the same reason why most of Microsoft courses don't focus on all the different windows versions instead does Windows generically.
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Originally posted by onlyLinuxLuvUBack View Post
there are plenty of IT clowns in the US willing to bend over and lick the boots of windows at the drop of a hat.
Recall who does most Linux shaping these days before sneering about "licking boots". It may be insulting but once you are willing to be insulting, no moral quandary when it comes to pointing at log in your own eye.
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