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  • #31
    Originally posted by angrypie View Post
    Seems like I hit a nerve, and, well, you are clueless.

    Did you switch to tried-and-true filesystems like Ext4 or Xfs? Did you even consider your remaining issues were caused by corrupted files? Could those be hardware/firmware issues?

    I don't think you should be operating anything more complex than a microwave, let alone an undead Unix distribution whose survival is by trickle-down software ported from Linux.
    You miss one rather important point. Linux desktop distros I named are supposedly offering user-friendly experience out-of-the-box. Regardless of what user does with either, as long as he/she doesn't go out of his/her way to break their installation, it should keep working. It should not matter what file system I used (be it ext4, xfs or btrfs). Certainly simply updating the system's software/packages should not cause issues. It'd be acceptable with "hacking" distros, like Arch or Gentoo. Not with binary package-based desktop distros. Fiddling and tinkering should be limited to distributors, along with considering what hardware would run and what not. Btw, if it runs on Windows and FreeBSD, it should be non-issue with Linux. Unless devs/distributors fucked things up somewhere in the pipeline.

    And again, I can say same to you - stay on linux, you shouldn't try conf-it-yourself OS'es, fail miserably because you didn't think on reading manuals and then bitch about it in moronix. FreeBSD is essentially bit like Gentoo or Arch. You get basic system, then build upon that base. Whatever you want.
    Last edited by aht0; 24 March 2021, 05:12 PM.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by aht0 View Post
      And again, I can say same to you - stay on linux, you shouldn't try conf-it-yourself OS'es, fail miserably because you didn't think on reading manuals and then bitch about it in moronix. FreeBSD is essentially bit like Gentoo or Arch. You get basic system, then build upon that base. Whatever you want.
      Reading manuals and doing what you're told is a great achievement indeed. Hope you do well in kindergarten, you're in the path to become a funcional adult with actual problem-solving skills (i.e. stuff your handbook doesn't or cannot cover).

      By the way, I never said I was unable to configure FreeBSD, I said I don't want to because, for me, it's not worth it. If I wanted to make my life harder for no reason I'd just be using LFS.
      Last edited by angrypie; 24 March 2021, 08:17 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by dacha View Post

        Not any more. When you install devel/gvfs, it automatically pulls in sysutils/bsdisks, which emulates the UDisks2 D-Bus interface and mounts drives from both GIO-based file managers (Nemo, Thunar, PCmanFM) and KDE's Solid-based ones (presumably Konqueror).

        Version 0.24 crashed and would hang sometimes, but I contributed many bug fixes and version 0.25 is very reliable. If you find bugs please report (https://foss.heptapod.net/bsdutils/bsdisks), and I'll take a look even if the maintainer doesn't. It's a small project I've gotten to know well, and fixing bugs is easy now.

        Fully automated mounting, as in file manager window opens when a drive is plugged in, won't work on XFCE yet as thunar-volman needs udev. Currently, you have to click on the removable drive icon in your file manager to mount it. But I am hoping to eventually implement a devd->udev conversion too.
        That is VERY cool! I will have to try installing that this weekend! Thank you for contributing that awesome piece of code.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by angrypie View Post

          Reading manuals and doing what you're told is a great achievement indeed. Hope you do well in kindergarten, you're in the path to become a funcional adult with actual problem-solving skills (i.e. stuff your handbook doesn't or cannot cover).
          Fucking grow up, will ya. Reading manuals is acceptable when you are dealing with hacking or DIY distros (into which I also put BSD's). When you are dealing with "I wanna be pretend-windows"-distros, then you should not have to be doing any of it. It should be everything "point-and-click and automatic". Definitely you shouldn't dig under hood and leaf through thick manuals.

          Let's say I install such linux on a laptop/PC of person who is not technical literate, might not even speak any English. Should I visit him/her each time upgrade fucks something up? Or should I just disable all software updates? Imagine doing this shit on a wider scale and getting calls about "my linux doesnt work now, come and fix" sixteen times a day and someimes over night.

          Originally posted by angrypie View Post

          By the way, I never said I was unable to configure FreeBSD, I said I don't want to because, for me, it's not worth it. If I wanted to make my life harder for no reason I'd just be using LFS.
          You literally told it when you were whining about the need of constant tinkering with "unstable FreeBSD desktop". It has barely any "moving parts". What the fuck are you tinkering with then? It's as simple as can be even when you are using Plasma5.
          Last edited by aht0; 26 March 2021, 05:47 AM.

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