NetBSD 9.0 Debuts As The "Best NetBSD Release Ever"

[jaypatelani]

kylew77 maybe in NetBSD 10.0 or before it will be easy patch to apply once it's commited.

[kylew77]

kylew77 here how to get ZFS on roots on NetBSD : https://mail-index.netbsd.org/curren...msg037748.html

That is very interesting that there is a hack around for root on ZFS. Maybe version 10 will support an easy install like on the FreeBSD curses based installer.

Edit: Upon reading this https://wiki.netbsd.org/wiki/RootOnZFS/ it is very experimental and you don't get the benefits of ZRAID or ZFS encryption or the check summing of important system files because they are all stored on a FFS partion.

[aht0]

I think you misspelled "retribution".

A) It's time to grow up. For you. Justifiying something as "but opposition is doing it too" is something which is more commonly found among pre-schoolers.
B) Sneering and generic shitstorms against BSD's have been in Phoronix, since it started. Certain crowd simply does not see "another opensource OS" but take it as a competitor to their LoveChild Linux and want it to be snuffed out. Thus the persistent hate.
C) If you check THIS thread, you see certain individuals found it by themselves without any external provocation. If you don't count article with a title about "something BSD" being the provocation.

[jaypatelani]

kylew77 here how to get ZFS on roots on NetBSD : https://mail-index.netbsd.org/curren...msg037748.html

starshipeleven PkgSrc is cross platform you can use it on Solaris , MacOS, Linux, smartOS etc

[starshipeleven]

timofonic
-sdf
-NASA uses NetBSD's PkgSrc system for NAS https://www.nas.nasa.gov/hecc/suppor...kgsrc_493.html

-https://uwm.edu/hpc/software-management/

It's correct but it is still kind of weird because the NAS operating system is SUSE Enterprise server 12 https://www.nas.nasa.gov/hecc/suppor...ystem_114.html

are NetBSD packages built in a way that allows them to run on Linux too?

[starshipeleven]

And then you come and dare complain about "trolling" in systemD threads..

Hypocrisy at it's best with a dose of "NIH, so it has to suck"-attitude.

I think you misspelled "retribution".

[dragon321]

Last (admittedly ~3y a go) I checked, it's Linux compatibility was ahead of FreeBSD (late kernel 3.x vs 2.6.32).

No clue nowadays, not sure even what's the exact version for FreeBSD Linux binary support, other than CentOS7 "but should support CentOS8 binaries".

Graphics support-wise FreeBSD is somewhere in the late kernel 4.x area (4.16, probably higher for bleeding edge. Works with my Vega64, so newer than 3y). No clue about NetBSD, other than it had Nouveau support and could work with my discrete Nvidia these years a go, despite lack of official drivers)

I've tried too on my PC (with AMD graphics) and was able to run some Linux games from GOG and some not. It worked pretty good. It seems graphics drivers are currently ported from Linux 4.16 but on Github mirror there is branch with drivers from Linux 5.0, so it's not bad at all. There are some bugs (like problems with EFI framebuffer with enabled AMD drivers) but generally it's works pretty good.

As for Linux apps, there is list of unimplemented system calls in FreeBSD source:
https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd/b.../linux_dummy.c

When I found that I've searched for similar list in NetBSD code and found this:
https://github.com/NetBSD/src/blob/t...yscalls.master

Looks like FreeBSD supports more Linux systemcalls than NetBSD. Last commit on FreeBSD Linux compat was 11 days ago implementing "sendfile" system call.

[kylew77]

Another good feature of this release is that it FINALLY supports uefi installation automatically out of the box. They hypervisor tech is impressive. ZFS sounds impressive at first but it doesn't support root on ZFS nor bootable ZFS. You could put your /home on a ZFS zpool though so that is nice. Would be excited to see some benchmarks. NetBSD has like a cult following on Reddit and some people love it as a daily driver striking a balance between the speed and power and perceived low security of FreeBSD and the Security at all costs camp of OpenBSD. I'm comfortable with FreeBSD as my daily driver right now but Net and Open both have compelling features.

[jaypatelani]

timofonic
-sdf
-NASA uses NetBSD's PkgSrc system for NAS https://www.nas.nasa.gov/hecc/suppor...kgsrc_493.html

-https://uwm.edu/hpc/software-management/

[aht0]

I wonder how NetBSD Linux compatibility compare with FreeBSD equivalent. Remember when they wanted to implement binary compatibility with macOS or rather Mac OS X. That would be very interesting feature today.

Last (admittedly ~3y a go) I checked, it's Linux compatibility was ahead of FreeBSD (late kernel 3.x vs 2.6.32).

No clue nowadays, not sure even what's the exact version for FreeBSD Linux binary support, other than CentOS7 "but should support CentOS8 binaries".

Graphics support-wise FreeBSD is somewhere in the late kernel 4.x area (4.16, probably higher for bleeding edge. Works with my Vega64, so newer than 3y). No clue about NetBSD, other than it had Nouveau support and could work with my discrete Nvidia these years a go, despite lack of official drivers)