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  • #11
    Haiku probably does boot with 256MB ram... but it does not *install* with 256MB... you need about 384MB or so maybe more. This seems to be due to some packages being processed during boot etc.... so there is a ram usage spike that crashes if you don't have enough.

    You really should test such claims before making them. Note the slides are clear on this... but the 256MB requirement gets thrown around without anyone mentioning it.
    Last edited by cb88; 03 February 2020, 11:49 AM.

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    • #12
      Spinning up a dual-boot FreeBSD and Haiku box is on my TODO list -- last I checked, Haiku needed to piggy-back off another boot loader like GRUB.

      IME, Haiku is a lovely little OS. Bare bones, sure, but lovely.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by uid313 View Post
        Can't they just port anything worth porting from Haiku to Linux?
        What is so great about Haiku?

        An interesting thing is that Google in their Fuschia operating system have the Zircon kernel which is derived from the Little Kernel developed by Travis Geiselbrecht, a creator of the NewOS kernel used by Haiku.
        What is so great about Fuchsia? Can't they just port anything worth porting from Fuchsia to Linux?
        Also, what is so great about Linux? Couldn't Linus just port anything worth porting from Linux to Minix?
        Oh, and what is so great about Minix? Couldn't they just port anything worth porting from Minix to Xerox ViewPoint?

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        • #14
          Originally posted by uid313 View Post
          [...] and no companies relying on legacy BeOS products which make them need Haiku as a replacement.
          WRONG. There are still some companies using BeOS for A/V work.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

            What is so great about Fuchsia? Can't they just port anything worth porting from Fuchsia to Linux?
            Also, what is so great about Linux? Couldn't Linus just port anything worth porting from Linux to Minix?
            Oh, and what is so great about Minix? Couldn't they just port anything worth porting from Minix to Xerox ViewPoint?
            Well Fuschia is new, so when giving a chance to start over and start on something new, Google with all its resources for some reason decided to base their Zircon kernel on an existing kernel, the Little Kernel, which happens to be developed by the same guy who created the NewOS kernel for Haiku.

            It is also interesting that Google who currently uses Linux seem to pursue their own operating system, as if they considered Linux to be inadequate.

            I don't know what is so great about Fuschia, maybe Google is interested in something built on a microkernel, or some RTOS or high security, or something with formal proof.

            Linux isn't particularly great, it's alright and it has a lot of momentum and backing.
            Linus used MINIX but created Linux because MINIX wasn't free enough, then it progressed so fast that MINIX became irrelevant.
            MINIX wasn't great either, but it was a Unix that cheap enough to be afford and available for personal use.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
              WRONG. There are still some companies using BeOS for A/V work.
              Doubtful.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post

                Doubtful.
                TuneTracker runs on BeOS - it's used by radio stations to handle their scheduling and music collections.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Slithery View Post
                  TuneTracker runs on BeOS - it's used by radio stations to handle their scheduling and music collections.
                  Also doubtful (no hardware from the last 10 years runs BeOS) and the V in “AV” means Video, so for which video workflows is BeOS used today? With proof, please.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post

                    Also doubtful (no hardware from the last 10 years runs BeOS) and the V in “AV” means Video, so for which video workflows is BeOS used today? With proof, please.
                    And the 'A' in 'AV' is for audio, which Slithery gave a perfectly good example of.
                    TuneTracker Systems offers TuneTracker System 6, a complete radio automation suite. If you can dream it, TuneTracker radio automation software can do it.


                    It runs on Haiku now.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                      Linux isn't particularly great, it's alright and it has a lot of momentum and backing.
                      It's the best. If Linux is not great then nothing is.

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