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  • danmcgrew
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

    The latest builds still boot in a few seconds for me, but the point was fastest in general, not just in boot times.
    Admittedly; apologies for seeming to fixate on boot time--assumed readers would correlate that with KolibriOS's blazing speed; this is due, in large part, to being written in assembly language and being pre-emptive.
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    "Without a doubt, KolibriOS wins the award for the most ambitious project in this feature. It's a fully fledged OS written entirely in assembly language. The KolibriOS team has managed to squeeze pre-emptive multitasking, a graphical desktop, TCP/IP networking, USB support, media playback and many other features onto a 1.44MB floppy disk.
    Booting 'kolibri.img' brings you to the desktop in just a couple of seconds. There's a Windows-like Start menu and taskbar along the bottom of the screen, and the desktop is littered with small utilities.
    It's all tremendously impressive...it shows what can be achieved with careful coding, especially as we're so used to bloatware nowadays."


    https://www.techradar.com/news/softw...rd-of-657469/2
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    Linux Magazine
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    "Little Friend”
    Article from Issue 204/2017
    Author(s): Erik Bärwaldt

    “... KolibriOS is particularly impressive thanks to its fantastic speed that even outshines minimalistic Linux derivatives such as SliTaz...
    “...A small Linux, however, can easily fit on an older system. Lightweight distros such as Lubuntu, Puppy, and Damn Small Linux are all supported by loyal communities that see big value in a small footprint. But what if you want to get really small – and I mean really really small?..."
    “...KolibriOS requires only a few Megabytes of disk space and it runs on 8MB of RAM...”


    http://www.linux-magazine.com/Issues/2017/204/KolibriOS
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    "KolibriOS is simply superb...
    ...It is blindingly fast, and very easy to navigate and use. The interface is very clean and precise...”


    From DW’s ‘Reader Ratings’, KolibriOS.
    https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kolibri


    Last edited by danmcgrew; 08-08-2019, 10:06 AM.

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by danmcgrew View Post

    KolibriOS: a pre-emptive, multi-tasking operating system written entirely in Assembly Language. Earlier versions booted in less than three seconds. So much more development has been performed that the resulting bloat has increased the boot time to ten seconds. If you value bragging rights over simply getting a job done, stay away. This is only a 32-bit OS.

    "KolibriOS is a tiny yet incredibly powerful and fast operating system. This power requires only a few megabyte disk space and 8MB of RAM to run..."
    https://kolibrios.org/en/

    https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kolibri

    Article showing a 3-second boot:
    https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kolibrios.html
    The latest builds still boot in a few seconds for me, but the point was fastest in general, not just in boot times.

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  • danmcgrew
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post

    No, the fastest that is still maintained is KolibriOS.
    KolibriOS: a pre-emptive, multi-tasking operating system written entirely in Assembly Language. Earlier versions booted in less than three seconds. So much more development has been performed that the resulting bloat has increased the boot time to ten seconds. If you value bragging rights over simply getting a job done, stay away. This is only a 32-bit OS.

    "KolibriOS is a tiny yet incredibly powerful and fast operating system. This power requires only a few megabyte disk space and 8MB of RAM to run..."
    https://kolibrios.org/en/

    https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kolibri

    Article showing a 3-second boot:
    https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/kolibrios.html

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  • Vistaus
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    Btw, I would like to use Haiku full-time, esp. now that Wi-Fi is working so well, but I've gotten so used to Vivaldi (browser) and with the upcoming integrated mail client, I cannot use any other browser full-time anymore, so that limits my Haiku usage, unless Vivaldi gets ported to Haiku or something like Wine but for Linux apps (Line? lol) becomes available for Haiku.

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  • danboid
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    Serenity has now replaced Haiku for me as the most interesting, non-Linux FLOSS OS. Serenity isn't even one year old nor does it run on real hardware yet but its amazing what has been implemented in ~10 months mainly by a single developer. I like that he's starting from scratch with the window system and GUI toolkit rather than using X, Wayland or re-implementing something that nobody uses from the 90s. It is heavily influenced by Qt tho so I think it will be more familiar to a lot of C++/Qt devs than BeOS.

    Serenity boots to its GUI almost instantly under qemu, whilst the Haiku boot time has a lot of room for improvement. Funnily enough, you can actually install Haiku faster than you can boot it on a lot of machines (if you exclude the boot time, ofc).

    It will be interesting to see where serenity is in another year or two.

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  • santana
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    Originally posted by Spazturtle View Post

    Explain how his comment was demanding, go on. He didn't demand they do anything, so how was it demanding.
    At every possible Haiku related news there is this kind of "Oh, ARM port is required, why is there no ARM port? are you guys imbicle not recognizing our needs? ARM PORT FOR THE WIN!"

    But nobody even wrote a line of code. And what else if not this demanding?

    But yeah, i just got triggered at the first rpi mentioning comment, maybe it was not the best example, but you got the point.

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  • Spazturtle
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    Originally posted by santana View Post

    You know guys, what i hate in the Haiku scene? This kind of demanding comments. Yeah, i know from my ass what would help to the project, but i never step up to make it happen, just whusful thinking all the time. You know how depressing to see kind of comments like this since rpi1 got released? Do something, but don't tell how the project should be driven. Thats my 2 cents. Now you can ban me. Thanks.
    Explain how his comment was demanding, go on. He didn't demand they do anything, so how was it demanding.

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  • santana
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    Originally posted by Nille View Post
    Its sad that many of these niche OS are just x86. There are Plattforms like the RPI where its should be easier so support since its a fixed platform. Its also easy to Flash just a new SD or swap them.
    You know guys, what i hate in the Haiku scene? This kind of demanding comments. Yeah, i know from my ass what would help to the project, but i never step up to make it happen, just whusful thinking all the time. You know how depressing to see kind of comments like this since rpi1 got released? Do something, but don't tell how the project should be driven. Thats my 2 cents. Now you can ban me. Thanks.

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  • RealNC
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
    No, the fastest that is still maintained is KolibriOS.
    Ooh. Completely forgot this existed.

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  • Volta
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    Originally posted by RealNC View Post
    They begin to what? Haiku is the fastest OS (from the ones that are still maintained) I've ever seen. (OK, second fastest, the fastest is FreeDOS, but that doesn't count. :P)
    Fast interface, but that's all.

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