FreeBSD Is Looking For Your Feedback To Guide Its Priorities

[skeevy420]

Beware it's only my humble opinion, but I think it's the other way around: it's being irrelevant that makes you ask what to do next.

I get that, I really do. Just the same though, when you've been hyper-focused on a task and getting stuff done, it can be a good thing to take a step back to get other opinions and a fresh, new perspective on things.

Manjaro does polls and asks questions like this from time to time and it's one of the reasons I think they're a great desktop and why they're now known as one of the best distributions for gaming on Linux. Community says, "All this CIK/SI crap is annoying with AMDGPU and my old ass GPU" so Manjaro made switching to AMDGPU with SI/CIK as simple as installing single package, reboot, you're on AMDGPU...need other experimental AMDGPU features? That's another package, reboot, done. They make so much stuff easy and just work and doing what FreeBSD is doing is why.

Manjaro asks questions, listens to their community, and that is precisely why they're not irrelevant.

[lucrus]

Manjaro asks questions, listens to their community, and that is precisely why they're not irrelevant.

I liked your comment and I agree. Maybe there are different reasons to ask the community: the first (Manjaro-like) is when you have a big user base and you want to do what your users expect you to do, so you ask them. The other (FreeBSD-like) is when you already are irrelevant and asking what to do next may draw some fresh attention to your project...

[skeevy420]

I liked your comment and I agree. Maybe there are different reasons to ask the community: the first (Manjaro-like) is when you have a big user base and you want to do what your users expect you to do, so you ask them. The other (FreeBSD-like) is when you already are irrelevant and asking what to do next may draw some fresh attention to your project...

With how *BSD seems to be gaining in popularity as of late...or maybe stealing some Linux thunder...it just makes sense to ask all the new and existing users to chime in. I've been following GhostBSD recently and how FreeBSD performs & what they do directly effects Ghost.

Not to mention that Netflix runs FreeBSD, PS3/4/Vita are FreeBSD based...It might not be very desktop relevant, but it is very relevant in regards to a lot of the backends for things most of us use almost daily.

[Mateus Felipe]

Didn't know FreeBSD had this much hate. Used it for a few months on a daily-base and liked it. It was actually faster than Linux on my machine.

[k1e0x]

Didn't know FreeBSD had this much hate. Used it for a few months on a daily-base and liked it. It was actually faster than Linux on my machine.

Oh it totally does.. hell I'd say there are probably even 10-15 people that hate it.

[Bsdisbetter]

Beware it's only my humble opinion, but I think it's the other way around: it's being irrelevant that makes you ask what to do next.

You've never heard of marketing then? Companies do it all the time. It's about delivering what the customer wants.
Just a heads up.

[Bsdisbetter]

Funny that it was discussed and still implemented, news to me.

I have ported software to FreeBSD, wasn't asked. Egregious policy, if for some reason one should grant it only has implications for whoever is making it, still affects the user-base. If your development and product dies, similarly, in similar vein to the argument above, nobody is forcing you to give up on using it, or making a developer of yourself and taking it on alone, if that is what it takes.

I have been a contributor for years (on/off since ~2000). It was core-lead and discussed in the forums. It was shut down very quickly when it turned out a lot of people had reservations about it. I am not contributing to this project anymore but continue to maintain some ports. I'm not conceited enough to know my position will change their attitude; it's a symptom of a 'social-media' driven/outrage-at-anything society that infests the online world. I therefore choose to remain apart from it until it changes. I am under no illusion that change will probably never occur.

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I've had people bring up their personal circumstances to berate others in projects (as if I know (or care)) because they use it as a weapon against you to shut down discourse and debate. I'm not saying people shouldn't be civil and far too many people take far too many liberties when they're not face to face, but this SJW nonsense in large scale projects with quotas and the like destroying any sort of concept of the let the best people do the job.

Imagine one has the temerity to say "You Sir, are wrong" only to be berated for saying "Sir" as it's a gendered honorific with decidedly biased connotations aimed at assaulting the sensibilities of the non-gender identifying dysmorphic dipshits.
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[Bsdisbetter]

With how *BSD seems to be gaining in popularity as of late...or maybe stealing some Linux thunder...it just makes sense to ask all the new and existing users to chime in. I've been following GhostBSD recently and how FreeBSD performs & what they do directly effects Ghost.

Not to mention that Netflix runs FreeBSD, PS3/4/Vita are FreeBSD based...It might not be very desktop relevant, but it is very relevant in regards to a lot of the backends for things most of us use almost daily.

I have GhostBSD on a laptop, it's a well put together OS. I'd like to see them develop a package/port manager ala Ubuntu, to get more purchase in the desktop market (and perhaps some bums away from Linux seats). FreeBSD is really focused more on headless server-based systems, which is their right (and correct IMHO), but popularity is in the desktop GUI - which makes me wonder how Windows 10 is so popular (aside from no choice and free OS initially).

[aht0]

GhostBSD has package manager. Look under "System" menu in Mate.

About the hate. It's typical to Phoronix. Get used to it by people who often have never even used it but feel terrible need to bash it for some absurd reason..

CoC - Linux has now CoC too. It's inevitable considering the masses of tender snowflakes and childish antisocial users/devs, who consider mouthing off at others their unalienable human right.

[skeevy420]

About the hate. It's typical to Phoronix. Get used to it by people who often have never even used it but feel terrible need to bash it for some absurd reason..

It's like, personally, I just can't stand Ubuntu, Gnome 3, or GTK3. Just don't care for the Ubuntu ways of doing things and brown themes don't look appealing to me. I don't see the point in pissing on their fun when there are 100 other distributions with their own ways of doing things with different default appearances that do things how I want them to do.

Gnome 3/GTK3 seems like a love it or hate it situation. My issue with Gnome 3 is needing 3rd party plugins to get the workflow I prefer...GTK3 is that I simply dislike their headerbar concept. I prefer a more traditional setup and I'm able to get that with Plasma, XFCE, Budgie, Enlightenment, Mate, Cinnamon, and more with what comes with the DE by default. Not much I can do about GTK3 other than use things like gtk3-mushrooms and deal with it.

At the end of the day, I'd rather tell people why I like Manjaro/Plasma/QT, not why I dislike Ubuntu/Gnome/GTK. Being a hater thread after thread, project after project, idea after idea...why would anyone even give a damn what you have to say after awhile? Oh, that dude's an asshole/fanboy/hater/toxic/troll, I'm gonna keep on scrolling by. Also, after reading so many posts like that, it can be depressingly negative here.

That's why I tend to post ridiculous and stupid jokes like the name of my Linux distribution in that Suse thread when the tired old GNU/Linux vs Linux vs ????/GNU/Linux argument came up. The way I figure, a dumb joke is better than assholes arguing over semantics.