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Originally posted by nomadewolf View PostBSD needs better hardware support.
TrueOS needs a better name and more polish...
Uncooperative hardware manufacturers
Linuxisms in published drivers, requiring the team to rewrite chunks of the code to get it to function (I'm against DFBSD's decision to try and compromise their design for the sake of compatibility)
Bad hardware/drivers
If you go with mainstream hardware that isn't fresh off the assembly line, the chances are pretty good it'll function fine.
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Originally posted by ElectricPrism View PostWith projects like OpenBox -- It knows exactly what the fuck it is trying to be, so much so that it has completed development.
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Originally posted by Kazuo-Omura View Post
BSD has pretty decent hardware support actually, in most cases the stuff that doesn't work is due to:
Uncooperative hardware manufacturers
Linuxisms in published drivers, requiring the team to rewrite chunks of the code to get it to function (I'm against DFBSD's decision to try and compromise their design for the sake of compatibility)
Bad hardware/drivers
If you go with mainstream hardware that isn't fresh off the assembly line, the chances are pretty good it'll function fine.
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Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
Any OS that isn't compatible with n-1 generation of hardware is useless to most desktop and laptop users.
Yes, you need to buy the correct hardware from Apple (because presumably the developers use that hardware).
Same with FreeBSD, you need to buy the correct hardware from Lenovo or Apple (because the developers prioritize that hardware).
Laptops are such a non-standards compliant mess of hardware that only if the drivers are provided by the hardware manufacturers themselves (which is what makes Windows so powerful), the machines are effectively broken upon release.
The main difference is that once *BSD supports a piece of hardware, it is good for life. Whereas once Linux supports a bit of hardware, it often regresses for the next few revisions of the kernel.
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Originally posted by Sonadow View Post
Any OS that isn't compatible with n-1 generation of hardware is useless to most desktop and laptop users.
Then about hybrid GPU's which don't want to work with Linux properly at all either. And these could be actually like 10 years old by now and still not working properly.
When you want to use graphics card without head aches, you'd just go and buy Geforce and use it's binary driver..and problem solved.
Oh, it's pretty much the same on FreeBSD.. weird that
We can expect now at least half a dozen die-hards confirming that they have absolutely zero issues with Radeon on Linux and all the problems are actually hiding between screen and a chair. Telling it only because previous article I happened to read was "AMD drivers.. a sad story" at https://www.phoronix.com/forums/foru...rs-a-sad-storyLast edited by aht0; 07 June 2018, 07:02 AM.
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The way I see it now:
NVIDIA Blob - Works Great
NVIDIA on platforms with no blob - No solution
NVIDIA on Linux (nouveau) - A bit crap (hot and slow)
AMD Blob - A bit crap (breaks with almost every update)
AMD on platforms with no blob - A bit crap (hot and slow)
Intel on every platform - Works Great (but not fantastic performance)
On FreeBSD, yeah I will go for NVIDIA blob for now but I can guarantee they will be dropping it in a few years
On OpenBSD, NVIDIA simply isn't an option but luckily on "non gamer" laptops, they only really provide an Intel GPU anyway.
On Desktops I have been toying with open-source AMD and it actually isn't bad. The open-source radeon driver is rather slow and hot for me but for desktops is the only real choice
C'mon guys after 20 odd years of FOSS / Graphics development, why are we still crawling around the frigging gutter. The open-source drivers are getting better, don't get me wrong, good work is being done. Unfortunately NVIDIA is already attacking them by requiring signed firmware and all that other criminal stuff.
Intel, get off your arse and sell a discrete Intel GPU for desktop computers!Last edited by kpedersen; 07 June 2018, 08:03 AM.
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Nvidia is probably requiring signed firmware for the simple reason that without it, criminals would still be selling fake Nvidia cards and damaging Nvidia's brand.
eBay was full of Chinese re-flashed junk where newer BIOS was forced upon much older card. It worked.. but as sane logic tells you, you can never get expected performance from multiple generations older hardware. So it was simple scam. And people fell for it in droves.
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Originally posted by aht0 View PostNvidia is probably requiring signed firmware for the simple reason that without it, criminals would still be selling fake Nvidia cards and damaging Nvidia's brand.
Good to see NVIDIA using its professional due diligence to come to the conclusion that ~10% of its users (running open-source operating systems) are nothing compared to its "brand" haha. I so wish it would move out of the way and let a "correct" company take its place.
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Originally posted by kpedersen View PostThe way I see it now:
Intel, get off your arse and sell a discrete Intel GPU for desktop computers!
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