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    Phoronix: It's Been Five Years Since That Interesting Message From Gabe Newell

    For those wishing to relive a past fond moment for Linux gaming or weren't reading Phoronix five years ago, today marks five years since receiving an interesting message from GabeN...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...Newell-5-Years

  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by pal666 View Post
    we are talking about desktops, whether browser is used is an implementation detail
    No, in this case it's different.

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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
    And we were talking about desktop apps, not browser apps.
    we are talking about desktops, whether browser is used is an implementation detail

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  • ssokolow
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    Favorite Steam Linux Game:
    I don't use Steam for my gaming (DRM-free zealot here) but, of the games which are offered on Steam, I've been returning to Stardew Valley, Risk of Rain, Defender's Quest, and Hexcells Infinite a lot lately.

    SteamOS Hopes:
    That Valve won't trip over Valve Time so much that the cause of Linux game compatibility backslides more than it already has with the observed trickle-off in the Steam survey.

    Improving Linux Gaming:
    Two things:

    1. I hope they push their higher-level controller API (the one which maps actions rather than buttons) into SDL or a similarly open-source library so there can be enough critical mass to see good adoption despite Linux's epidemic of bikeshedding and "good enough for me".

    2. I hope they re-tool the hardware survey so that:

    a. It can properly acknowledge copies of Steam running in Wine or VM hosts.

    b. It becomes possible for it to operate in a mode more like website analytics, where it samples everyone who's willing to give permission. None of this "I'm on Linux and proud of that, but I was never asked".

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  • Vistaus
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    Originally posted by pal666 View Post
    office360 in browser?
    Close, but no cigar. Yes, it's basically Office, but no, it's not a desktop app. And we were talking about desktop apps, not browser apps. (if you really count in Office 365 in the browser, then you can say that MS Office is basically available for every OS that has a HTML5 browser)

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  • schmidtbag
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    Originally posted by pal666 View Post
    your, not mine
    Do you know what subjective means? So far, I'm the only one who has brought facts to the table. You have made baseless claims that are clearly revolved around your opinion.
    next time try to check your evidence. those are commits to allow nvidia ship its windows blob on dual gpu systems.
    You sure are grasping at straws here if you need to be cherry-picking results. Most of the commits there had nothing to do with Windows or dual-GPU systems. I gave you the benefit of the doubt by only showing results that were explicitly tied to Nvidia, even though there are likely more results from Nvidia employees who may not have used an nvidia.com domain.

    Next time, don't use the first anecdote you pick as the basis to your argument.
    no, it doesn't. where is nvidia's tegra shader compiler?
    So what you're telling me is because Nvidia didn't create a shader compiler for Tegra, they do not contribute toward it, despite evidence as recent as this? That's utterly ridiculous. By that terrible logic, that's like saying "even though you got the ingredients, mixed them together, poured them into the pan, and preheated the oven, you had nothing to do with the bread that was made because you didn't put it in the oven".
    here is what they get for their efforts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpOyKCNZYw
    And yet you think I'm being subjective... Right...
    Thanks for proving my point.
    Last edited by schmidtbag; 03-31-2017, 02:22 PM.

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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    Alright, well now we established your statement is in fact subjective, so:
    your, not mine
    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    These are commits involving Nvidia authors.
    next time try to check your evidence. those are commits to allow nvidia ship its windows blob on dual gpu systems.
    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    2. Even if there were no results for Nvidia authors, it is known that Nvidia contributes toward the open-source Tegra drivers.
    no, it doesn't. where is nvidia's tegra shader compiler?
    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    3. Suppose Nvidia didn't have anything to do with Mesa or nouveau at all - that still doesn't mean they have no Linux attention. They do have Linux-specific efforts (primarily in their closed-source drivers) which I have linked to in my last post.
    here is what they get for their efforts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVpOyKCNZYw
    even microsoft does more linux development than nvidia
    Last edited by pal666; 03-31-2017, 01:51 PM.

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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by Vistaus View Post
    While Android is based on Linux, what we usually mean by "MS Office for Linux" is Linux desktop distros.
    office360 in browser?

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  • Vistaus
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    While Android is based on Linux, what we usually mean by "MS Office for Linux" is Linux desktop distros.

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  • leipero
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    Originally posted by Hi-Angel View Post
    Untrue. Here's a 4-years old post by Dolphin devs, Mesa drivers were among the best.
    In terms of performance and support, they were not even close to what they are now. In link you posted, developers spoke about bugs, not performance, i guess they were good in terms of OpenGL support.

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