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  • Tgui
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    Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
    you really hate horseys
    You're such a fucking moron. He likes bats!

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  • LinuxGamer
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    Originally posted by jayrulez View Post
    480 posts. At this point, all you are doing is
    you really hate horseys

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  • jayrulez
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    Originally posted by LinuxGamer View Post
    upstart eww that thing is Useless any more really was before any ways as it was not a real fix like systemd is

    "Warning: Almost all packages related to Unity in AUR are outdated. Do not mix those packages with the ones provided from the repository"
    480 posts. At this point, all you are doing is




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  • LinuxGamer
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    Originally posted by blackout23 View Post
    Actually you can instal Unity and even upstart on Arch Linux. Also freetype2-ubuntu is in the AUR. You can use it to get nicer fonts or use freetype2-infinality , which most Archers use. Unity on Arch is pretty well maintained by one guy, who even set up his own binary repo. Haven't tried it and would not recommend it since it replaces a lot of Arch packages with Ubuntu patched packages. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125423&p=1 Just look at that size and age of that thread. This guy does amazing work for years now. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unity

    I agree that people exaggerate the difficulty. If you don't know what you are doing it might take a bit longer to install. After you have your dream setup just keep rolling. The official repos are very stable. It hasn't broken on my from an update in 2 years. In the beginning I borked it myself 2-3 times, because I was adventurous and tried stupid things. Just don't treat you installation like a sandbox, which can be hard since Arch offers you all that new and shiny stuff and that experimental XY filesystem etc. or you'll try to replace xserver-common with that xwayland enable xserver from the user repo and things don't go that well.
    upstart eww that thing is Useless any more really was before any ways as it was not a real fix like systemd is

    "Warning: Almost all packages related to Unity in AUR are outdated. Do not mix those packages with the ones provided from the repository"

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  • blackout23
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    Originally posted by Akka View Post
    You hardly save any time with Ubuntu over Arch. Arch isn't like slackware was 1996. Everything more or less works out of the box, just like with Ubuntu. Probably because most of the software is identical in all distros. You don't get Unity and you don't get upstart, the rest don't differ that much. My theory is people exaggerate their difficulties with Arch as some sort of identifications. My impression is Arch is way more stable than a new release from Canonical. Probably Ubuntu is more stable one month after release or something like that.
    Actually you can instal Unity and even upstart on Arch Linux. Also freetype2-ubuntu is in the AUR. You can use it to get nicer fonts or use freetype2-infinality , which most Archers use. Unity on Arch is pretty well maintained by one guy, who even set up his own binary repo. Haven't tried it and would not recommend it since it replaces a lot of Arch packages with Ubuntu patched packages. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=125423&p=1 Just look at that size and age of that thread. This guy does amazing work for years now. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Unity

    I agree that people exaggerate the difficulty. If you don't know what you are doing it might take a bit longer to install. After you have your dream setup just keep rolling. The official repos are very stable. It hasn't broken on my from an update in 2 years. In the beginning I borked it myself 2-3 times, because I was adventurous and tried stupid things. Just don't treat you installation like a sandbox, which can be hard since Arch offers you all that new and shiny stuff and that experimental XY filesystem etc. or you'll try to replace xserver-common with that xwayland enable xserver from the user repo and things don't go that well.
    Last edited by blackout23; 02 August 2013, 04:33 PM.

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  • Tgui
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    Originally posted by Akka View Post
    You hardly save any time with Ubuntu over Arch. Arch isn't like slackware was 1996. Everything more or less works out of the box, just like with Ubuntu. Probably because most of the software is identical in all distros. You don't get Unity and you don't get upstart, the rest don't differ that much. My theory is people exaggerate their difficulties with Arch as some sort of identifications. My impression is Arch is way more stable than a new release from Canonical. Probably Ubuntu is more stable one month after release or something like that.
    I'm sure just about anything is better than Slackware from 1996! Arch sounds like a solid distro. Personally Ubuntu has filled my computer needs and thus am interested in seeing its continued use in testing here at Phoronix. Hate me all you want but I really like Unity. I like the left hand icons. The context search works great for me as well.

    Perhaps I'll toss Arch in a VM for a test. That and a new Fedora, I'm intrested in how thats changed over the years.

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  • Akka
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    Originally posted by Tgui View Post
    Not every one of us hardcore tech types want to dick with the actual computer all day.
    You hardly save any time with Ubuntu over Arch. Arch isn't like slackware was 1996. Everything more or less works out of the box, just like with Ubuntu. Probably because most of the software is identical in all distros. You don't get Unity and you don't get upstart, the rest don't differ that much. My theory is people exaggerate their difficulties with Arch as some sort of identifications. My impression is Arch is way more stable than a new release from Canonical. Probably Ubuntu is more stable one month after release or something like that.

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  • Tgui
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    Originally posted by mike4 View Post
    Never tried Manjaro nor Arch but Suse back in 1998. Happy with Ubuntu...but hey your cars are nothing special to me. I'd rather buy a electric soon. Any your beer...well I'd at least try it.
    Hey, I'd take a Tesla S but they weren't available when I bought my ISF

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  • mike4
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    Never tried Manjaro nor Arch but Suse back in 1998. Happy with Ubuntu...but hey your cars are nothing special to me. I'd rather buy a electric soon. Any your beer...well I'd at least try it.

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  • Tgui
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    Originally posted by Charlie68 View Post
    This poll makes me impression and explain why, this site is a very technical, very popular with users 'technical', which explains the success of Arch-Linux, but I am rather surprised Ubuntu so high as it is directed to a different target .
    I apologize for my English.
    Not every one of us hardcore tech types want to dick with the actual computer all day. My servers/workstations use Ubuntu 12.04 LTS because I just want to use the damn machines until the hardware dies. My days of Slackware, starting in 1996, are long gone! From SunOS/Solaris/Irix/MacOSX/Windows*/etc I'm not bothered by GUI nuances and even find that Unity works well for me. I don't care about Mir/Wayland as I think in time everything will be just fine and the Linux community will move onto the next bit minutae to bitch about. Ubuntu is popular, I can find answers to questions quickly, 12.04 is supported nicely for CUDA development, I haven't had issues installing any Oracle products, VMWare just works and so forth.

    Why not Fedora or Centos? I've been there, they work, but Ubuntu just seemed to be a smoother experience to me. For a hardcore server of course I would (and have) gone the CentOS route.

    You're implying that Ubuntu is solely directed to the casual user. I'd extend that statement to include people that have other things to do than play with the OS, much like OSX (which I also like very much).

    At this point I spend my time supporting my family, driving fun cars, brewing beer and NOT recompiling kernels.

    PS, your english is just fine


    (Fun cars, 2004 STi sold on the right, reverse engineered the ECU, I built a custom meth system, turbo etc for 500+ HP. My current car, 2010 ISF, on the left since I wanted RWD for a change, 420HP stock)




    (Imperial stout, 14% alcohol)




    Both hobbies more fun for me than recompiling kernels!
    Last edited by Tgui; 02 August 2013, 09:12 AM.

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