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  • russofris
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    Originally posted by Qaridarium
    a personal opinion is not a statement of fact !
    Hi there,

    In the english language, facts need not be true nor objective. For example, the following are facts:

    1: The sky is purple.
    2: The ocean is is a large land mass.
    3: Oasis is the greatest rock band in human history.

    All three of the above sentences are statements of fact, but only one of them is true.

    F

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  • susikala
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    Even without mildly beginning to wonder what drives all the brainless people who try to reason with Qaridarium to write such lengthy posts (I guess it's the same gene which makes people buy iEvil computers?), when he's obviously having the fun of his life here (otherwise he would have left long ago), I find this topic really amusing. Whenever I browse on Wikipedia and venture into the discussions I stare in awe at the utter brainlessness of practically everyone there who would rather discuss every last atom (or anything you consider the smallest unit) of the universe to bits than use some common sense -- but this tops it all.

    Again, thank you Phoronix for not banning anyone here.

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  • TobiSGD
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    Originally posted by Qaridarium
    you didn't understand the clue you "Claimed" I'm a Troll but this is your personal opinion
    Of course it is my personal opinion? Whose opinion should I post if not mine. But that it is my opinion doesn't change the fact that I built this opinion with two simple facts in mind:
    1. The commonly accepted definition of the word troll in this context, which I already gave to you.
    2. The behavior you show in the posts I have read from you.
    This is how people (should) build their opinions, based on facts.

    the difference to my sentence to you is i proved for everyone with objective criteria that you ARE a Troll!
    Where is the objective criteria? Do you mean because you stated that in your opinion every one who claims that another person is a troll, regardless if this claim is based on facts every one can see, is a troll himself?

    And after the Fact that you are the Troll its logic the Troll do what a Troll musst do because of this you call me a "Troll"
    Since the only "fact" you are presenting is your opinion that I am a troll, besides the fact that i have not shown post in the kind of yours (insults and such) on this or any other forum, this claim is baseless.

    In the Trolls logic its always the same he always call others Trolls to get away with his trolling.
    You are obviously "forgetting" that this thread only exists because you are annoying the people here and that you even claim that it is a success when you get away with it.

    and your behavior show that you only try to attack me with the primary intent of provoking me and force me into an emotional response
    Again, this thread exists only because you, with the type of posts you have already made, have shown to the people what kind of person you are. I don't have to provoke any reaction, you have already shown your face.

    he is the only one who calls me a Troll only to insult me because of my definition of success in this "Ban-Qaridarium" Tropic.
    I have tried to discuss this definition with you. But you yourself delivered a definition that is exactly the definition of a troll. Oh, and again, remember that this topic only exists because of your way to deal with people.

    so he want me to make suicide and if not he try to force other people to ban me with the claim that i'm a troll.
    1. I am not the OP of this thread. You have annoyed other people enough that they want you banned, and there are some people here that signed the petition.
    2. The only one that can ban you is Micheal and I am in no position to force him to do that.
    3. You yourself have shown with your behavior and with your own definition of success that you are a troll, not my fault.

    your definition is a suicide in this tropic because the tropic is: "ban-Qaridarium" the highest success in this tropic is not to be banned.

    should i really be respectful for people who want me to be banned ?
    Have you even considered for a moment to think about why people want you to be banned, and this not for the first time? Is it because you are so a nice person and all others are simply wrong with their opinion about you? Or is it because you permanently are annoying and insulting people and nobody wants to be annoyed and insulted? The highest success in this topic would neither be if you are banned nor if you are not banned. The highest success in this topic would be if you think about your posting style, stop behaving like an asshole and, maybe, apologize for your behavior. But since I can't see this happen I doubt that you can reach this goal.

    and if someone do lie then i should shut up my mouth and don't give the truth a voice by calling him a liar?
    A liar is someone who intentionally claims things that are not true. The keyword here is intentionally. Not everyone who posts untrue things is a liar, it may also be simple misinformation or misunderstanding. You should only call people liar if you have evidences that they are doing this with intention. If you can't do that you should point out what you think is wrong and why you think that it is wrong. Politely, this is how people behave in society.

    and what kind of discussion with respect is this tropic "ban-Qaridarium" ? this tropic do hurt your rules more than all my stuff together!
    And was provoked by your behavior. Sometimes you can't be respectful, but not being respectful should be a last resort, not the rule. In your posts it seems to be the other way around.

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  • DanL
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    Originally posted by TobiSGD View Post
    Circular logic, now you are the troll for calling me a troll, and so on.
    Because it needs to be posted here:

    The Contrarian Troll. A sophisticated breed, Contrarian Trolls frequent boards whose predominant opinions are contrary to their own. It is important to distinguish between dissenters and actual Contrarian Trolls, however; the Contrarian is not categorized as a troll because of his or her dissenting opinions, but due to the manner in which he or she behaves:

    – Contrarian Warning Sign Number One: The most important indicator of a poster's Contrarian Troll status is his constant use of subtle and not-so-subtle insults, a technique intended to make people angry. Contrarians will resist the urge to be insulting at first, but as their post count increases, they become more and more abusive of those with whom they disagree. Most often they initiate the insults in the course of what has been a civil, if heated, debate to that point.

    – Contrarian Warning Sign Number Two: Constant references to the forum membership as monolithic. "You guys are all just [descriptor]." "You're a lynch mob." "You all just want to ridicule anyone who disagrees with you."

    – Contrarian Warning Sign Number Three: Intellectual dishonesty. This is only a mild indicator that is not limited to trolls, but Contrarians display it to a high degree. They will lie about things they've said, pull posts out of context in a manner that changes their meanings significantly, and generally ignore any points for which they have no ready answers.

    – Contrarian Warning Sign Number Four: Accusing the accusers. When confronted with their trolling, trolls immediately respond that it is the accusers who are trolls. Often the Contrarian will single out his most vocal opponent and claim that while he can respect his other opponents, this one in particular is beneath his notice.

    – Contrarian Warning Sign Number Five: Attempts to condescend. The Contrarian will seek refuge in condescending remarks that repeatedly scorn his or her critics as beneath notice – all the while continuing to respond to them.

    – Contrarian Warning Sign Number Six: One distinctive mark of Contrarian Trolls is that every thread in which they dissent quickly devolves into a debate about who is trolling whom. In the course of such a debate the Contrarian will display many of the other Warning Signs mentioned above.

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  • Linuxhippy
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    ban both

    ban both. Quridarium nonetheless is very annoying.

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  • DebianLinuxero
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    Qaridarium must make amends, and Michael should post his though

    Hello pals.


    Although I haven't post allmost anything, I visit this site since some years ago.

    I have to say that it's annoyning reading posts with personal attacks.

    And that having a syndrome don't give anyone the right to insult, even if this one it's not fully conscient of his/her incorrect behavior.

    The rest of us, don't have to stand this bad comportment.

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  • TobiSGD
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    Originally posted by Qaridarium
    this is your personal opinion i can't do nothing about this.
    but there is only one kind of people out there who want to show other people look like Trolls: Trolls

    now what next Troll ?
    Circular logic, now you are the troll for calling me a troll, and so on. But that is not how it works. Even people that are not trolls are able to recognize a person as troll. This is possible because there is a definition of being a troll. And trolls are trolls because of that definition, no one is a troll for recognizing that a different person is a troll. It is only your behavior that makes you a troll, nothing else. By the way, this is not a personal opinion, this is the common accepted definition. Now I guess the next thing you will post is that is not your definition what a troll is, but nobody cares what your definition is.
    Try it with some real logic next time, may be that is successful.

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  • TobiSGD
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    Originally posted by Qaridarium
    you just lag a definition of "success"

    my definition of "success" is clear I am successful as long as they can not ban me.

    but feel free to give me your definition of "success"
    There is only one kind of people out there thinking that it is a success not to be banned: Trolls. And not being banned on a forum that seems not to be moderated is not really a success.

    My definition of success? Simple, discuss your issues with the persons involved in the discussion with respect and knowledge, not with telling them that thy are liars and that you know better. It definitely fits my definition of success more when you win a discussion with facts and being respectful, instead of just trolling long enough until people are so annoyed of you that they simply ignore you and leave the discussion.

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  • log0
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    Originally posted by DanL View Post
    ZOMG, dude! It doesn't work unless everyone does it!!!!11
    Then remind the ones still feeding him kindly not to do it. Shouldn't be too hard, no?

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  • TobiSGD
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    Originally posted by Qaridarium
    the definition is the other way around they try it and fail because of this they are ot successful in fact i'm more successful than they are.
    You may be getting away with a behavior that is socially not accepted, but that doesn't make you successful. You still lack essential social skills and are simply avoiding it to increase those skills with blaming your mental illnesses for it, without even trying to actively work on that issue.
    That is not a success, this is simply lame.

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