KDE Plasma 6.3 Bringing A More Consistent Close Button, Other Last Minute Changes

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  • archkde
    Senior Member
    • May 2019
    • 663

    #11
    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

    I prefer Red Close buttons. IMHO, the various Control buttons should be colored by default with the option to black them out for advanced users. I know all that color risks getting an XP Fisher Price look, but at the same time those colors are helpful. Not everyone has great enough eyes to find the black X on the semi-dark background. Themed and colored buttons is just visual accessibility for people with bad eye sight, beginners and new users, and could give more theme and customization options for those that tweak their system..
    You can actually have a red close button everywhere! Go to the window decoration settings, click the pencil icon on the Breeze theme and check the option. I don't know if this also applies to the dialog mentioned in the article, but I'd call it a bug if it didn't (for the same reason the change was made in the first place).

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    • skeevy420
      Senior Member
      • May 2017
      • 8506

      #12
      Originally posted by Daktyl198 View Post

      The good news is that this is KDE, which means you're entirely free to grab a theme that changes the close icons to be whatever you want
      I already do

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      • Landway12
        Junior Member
        • Jun 2024
        • 21

        #13
        After trying Ubuntu for a little while, I am surprised over how inferior it was to KDE.
        • Touch input is worse (Gnome issues, e.g. clicking automatically when scrolling with the finger, flickering virtual keyboard),
        • the Software application has less amount of apps and it is harder to find applications (e.g. searching "USB boot" gives nothing, while in KDE Discover I get several perfect results),
        • GUI spread out (one Application Update and one Software Update),
        • cannot "peak behind" popup windows and general design flaws (forced top bar because task manager lacks info), forced full-screen animations hiding windows when performing searches etc.
        • Requiring the terminal to install basic applications and several times requiring Google to find basic settings.
        • Must install a second Software Application center (Gnome) for common apps
        • Most apps doesn't even work (Krita couldn't open, Fedora Mediawriter and some others), and even Ubuntu's own such as USB Startup Creator

        It seems that the Ubuntu team really need to "kill their darlings" and jump on the KDE train. I couldn't see single thing that was better with Ubuntu's standard DE than KDE.

        BTW, with KDE, everything just works. Fantastic job KDE team!
        Last edited by Landway12; 11 January 2025, 12:27 PM.

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        • ngraham
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2018
          • 388

          #14
          Originally posted by Landway12 View Post
          After trying Ubuntu for a little while, I am surprised over how inferior it was to KDE.
          BTW, with KDE, everything just works. Fantastic job KDE team!
          Thank you so much!

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          • Danny3
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2012
            • 2306

            #15
            Nice that they are working on pre-authorizing or authorizing from the command line programs that want to grab the screen.
            This was the single most stupidest thing I have ever seen in a design, as it completely ignered remote desktop controlling programs and the fact that nobody can guarantee that someone else is on the other side to authorize the access.
            Hopefully they will make it in a way that it works both for VNC server-client pair but also for Sunshine-Moonlight pair, that is actually the most performant and advanced both in quality of the image and in response time.

            As for the X close window control button, I think it's bad as it has no red color or background when it's hovered before being pushed.
            I think that the maximize restore button also is not too good as it's not as intuitive as other designs like:
            Maximize icon in the Solid style. Make a bold statement in small sizes. Available now in Font Awesome 6.

            Or like:
            Up Right And Down Left From Center icon in the Solid style. Make a bold statement in small sizes. Available now in Font Awesome 6.

            Anyway, we are lucking that the Klassy window decoration exists, which is much better than KDE Plasma's default decoration:
            Klassy is a highly customizable binary Window Decoration, Application Style and Global Theme plugin for recent versions of the KDE Plasma desktop. - paulmcauley/klassy


            Still sad to see that KDE developers hate colors and 3D designs like crazy and prefer these black-and-white flat designs...

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            • skeevy420
              Senior Member
              • May 2017
              • 8506

              #16
              Originally posted by Danny3 View Post
              As for the X close window control button, I think it's bad as it has no red color or background when it's hovered before being pushed.
              I think that the maximize restore button also is not too good as it's not as intuitive as other designs like:
              Maximize icon in the Solid style. Make a bold statement in small sizes. Available now in Font Awesome 6.

              Or like:
              Up Right And Down Left From Center icon in the Solid style. Make a bold statement in small sizes. Available now in Font Awesome 6.

              Anyway, we are lucking that the Klassy window decoration exists, which is much better than KDE Plasma's default decoration:
              https://github.com/paulmcauley/klassy
              My intuition would be that those icons would be tied to move and resize functions.

              It sucks that Android and other mobile form factors coopted the Square shaped Maximize button into the Recent Apps/Window Switcher button and that no one has really come to a conclusion on to what constitutes decent button designs for windowed, maximized, and possibly other states.

              The KDE/Breeze Arrow/Diamond works well enough to show Maximize and Maximized. I'm not necessarily a fan of the diamond part of it, but it works well enough nor am I sure what would work better due to the classical window box being repurposed. When Maximized, the Diamond seems like it could also function as a "Keep Above Others" toggle. I know that's what the Double Up and Double Down buttons are for, but intuition, first thoughts, and all that.

              Still sad to see that KDE developers hate colors and 3D designs like crazy and prefer these black-and-white flat designs...
              It's not KDE. The same can be said of Windows, GNOME, COSMIC, and more. Fact is, simple shit is easier to make work for more form factors, resolutions, DPI/PPI, etc.

              Here's how flat and boring COSMIC looks:


              Look at all those round, flat, and blue icons. Totally good branding. Really makes them stand out from each other.

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              • HighValueWarrior
                Phoronix Member
                • May 2020
                • 80

                #17
                Originally posted by mrg666 View Post
                Nate has been an excellent leader in KDE project. Thank you, Nate! ... and, of course, all contributors to KDE.
                +1
                Excellent work!
                KDE Master Race

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                • sophisticles
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2015
                  • 2521

                  #18
                  plasma no longer crashes when switching the desktop from "folder" to "desktop" containment and then back again.
                  rotflmao!

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                  • mos87
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 389

                    #19
                    Originally posted by Landway12 View Post
                    After trying Ubuntu for a little while, I am surprised over how inferior it was to KDE.
                    oy vey
                    Originally posted by Landway12 View Post
                    BTW, with KDE, everything just works. Fantastic job KDE team!
                    naturlich jawohl

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                    • bug77
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2009
                      • 6470

                      #20
                      Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

                      rotflmao!
                      I get that you find it ridiculous that a desktop can be laid out more than one way. I just changed mine as described and it didn't crash. It wasn't a generic issue, it was affecting specific setups (i.e. Nate's, but he didn't include system config in the bug report) .

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