ONE question: do professionals uses gimp and what's the purpose of this program?
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Originally posted by Tawheed View PostONE question: do professionals uses gimp and what's the purpose of this program?
However, there are cases though where things like gimp and Photoshop are not useful. You can make vector drawings with adobe illustrator or inkscape.
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Originally posted by Tawheed View PostONE question: do professionals uses gimp and what's the purpose of this program?
The purpose of it is to pick up the slack from Photoshop as it disappears.
We are seeing similar happening with Blender vs Max and Maya.
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Originally posted by kpedersen View PostThe purpose of it is to pick up the slack from Photoshop as it disappears.
The idea is that users in the FOSS ecosystem deserve a sophisticated image editor that is good enough to do serious work in a professional and prosumer environment. So GIMP is trying to be that image editor. Take it from a former team member.
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Originally posted by phoronix View PostGIMP 2.99.14 is out this weekend as the latest development release on the way toward the elusive GIMP 3.0...
https://www.phoronix.com/news/GIMP-2.99.14-Released
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Originally posted by prokoudine View Post
The more inspecific comments people leave elsewhere (as opposed to specific reports in the bugtracker), the less fixes they will get. Up to you, I guess?
Guess how much difference it makes, how much of that feedback was acted on?
This tends to be a major weakspot in FOSS projects where people treat the UX / UI as an afterthought or respond to valid criticism with,
Maybe it is not so bad, maybe it just different from what you're used to.
The sheer arrogance that comes out of some of these projects in refusing to take UX seriously is a huge impairment to their viability. Paint.NET on Windows manages to be incredibly useful because it focused on having a reasonable interface, and that's a project of like one guy. Why can't the GIMP project make a release cycle about providing a new default interface that isn't horrendous?
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Originally posted by ll1025 View PostI've given projects like this (LibreOffice, actually but same core issue of bad UI) very specific details with a usability study to back it up, and got a "thanks so much for bringing this to our attention".
So you lost your faith. There's not much I can do about that, sorry.
Originally posted by ll1025 View PostThe sheer arrogance that comes out of some of these projects in refusing to take UX seriously is a huge impairment to their viability.
Originally posted by ll1025 View PostWhy can't the GIMP project make a release cycle about providing a new default interface that isn't horrendous?
On one level, you gotta have people experienced in UX/UI design involved. GIMP doesn't have anyone with that experience currently (there were some past activities of the kind before, various parts of UX/UI have improved thanks to that).
On another level, you need more people involved who can do the programming, because the maintenance load in the GIMP project keeps increasing: over 3700 bug reports and feature requests last time I checked, spread over just a few active contributors. That includes over 600 crash reports that are, like, an urgent thing to work on. You can see that for yourself: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gimp/...%5D=1.%20Crash
I am not making any of this shit about too few developers up either. If you look at the sliding 12-months summary here - https://openhub.net/p/gimp/contributors/summary - you'll see one person in charge for 45% of commits to the source code, then two translators who are very active, then the next active developer is in charge for just 4% of all commits. The third actively involved person is a GSoC student this year who decided to stick with the project past the GSoC time and since then keeps doing great things. But that is not enough. The project needs a bigger team to both maintain and develop the program.
On yet another level, there's a kind of a social contract between the team and the community that v3.2 will be devoted to non-destructive editing. The lack of this feature is a deal breaker for many. It's one of those essential features in a professional environment. Postponing this for god knows how many more years will be heart-breaking and soul-crushing for everyone involved.Last edited by prokoudine; 21 November 2022, 09:34 AM.
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Originally posted by Tawheed View PostONE question: do professionals uses gimp and what's the purpose of this program?
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Originally posted by ll1025 View PostThis tends to be a major weakspot in FOSS projects where people treat the UX / UI as an afterthought or respond to valid criticism with...
With 2.10 version, Gimp fixed the UI, they did a great job and by the way you could always arrange it the way you like; nowadays the bigger UX problem GIMP is facing is GTK3 which are designed to make Gnome 3 somewhat useful the way that RH employs like and from that we evinced that using software like Gimp is not their main activity, now we have ugly buttons and sliders, a lot of real estate pixel wasted for nothing... Blame the gnome team (which are 90% RH employs ) since they have been driving the last GTK3~4 development.
And by the way GIMP is not a commercial software so it doesn't need to please anyone, it is made by a bunch of few volunteers in their spare time, and if we measure money and time invested on both projects... Gimp is the only winner...Last edited by Danielsan; 23 November 2022, 02:59 PM.
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