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  • AMD Launches EPYC 9004 "Genoa" Processors - Up To 96 Cores, AVX-512, Incredible Performance

    Phoronix: AMD Launches EPYC 9004 "Genoa" Processors - Up To 96 Cores, AVX-512, Incredible Performance

    Following September's successful launch of the AMD Ryzen 7000 series "Zen 4" desktop processors, today AMD is lifting the embargo on their EPYC 9004 series "Genoa" server processors. EPYC Genoa takes AMD server processors to the new SP5 socket, up to 96 cores / 192 threads per socket, AVX-512 with Zen 4, twelve channels of DDR5 system memory, and much more -- all combined it puts AMD and the industry at new levels of HPC performance. I've been benchmarking the AMD EPYC Genoa processors the past few weeks to astounding success. This article is looking more at the feature set and platform for Genoa while separately are my initial AMD EPYC 9554 / EPYC 9654 Linux review and benchmarks.

    https://www.phoronix.com/review/amd-epyc-9004-genoa

  • #2
    Three articles at once? Wow!

    Typo oh my

    Like on the Ryzen 70000 desktop side,
    Last edited by tildearrow; 10 November 2022, 03:44 PM.

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    • #3
      Go AMD!

      Hopefully, more companies will upgrade their servers with these CPUs.

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      • #4
        Very nice. Not only servers. Also AMD Workstations and Desktops are still underpresented in the OEM Fields. Have a look at Dell.

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        • #5
          So we can put 96 cores on a single CPU. Why is SMT/HT still a thing on consumer chips?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CochainComplex View Post
            Very nice. Not only servers. Also AMD Workstations and Desktops are still underpresented in the OEM Fields. Have a look at Dell.
            Yes, Dell can keep sitting on their @rses while people switch to self built workstations or other brands. We waited for them to finally release Ryzen workstations, then ended up building them for ourselves from off the shelf parts.

            They have ridiculously priced Alienware gimmicks with bundled GPUs. No thanks.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Espionage724 View Post
              So we can put 96 cores on a single CPU. Why is SMT/HT still a thing on consumer chips?
              Because 96 cores also cost as much as 96 physical cores and SMT allows for utilizing the existing processing units more. It'd be quite wasteful to not do SMT on these cores.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by niner View Post

                Because 96 cores also cost as much as 96 physical cores and SMT allows for utilizing the existing processing units more. It'd be quite wasteful to not do SMT on these cores.
                Consumer chips don't need 96 cores; 16 maybe average, 8 minimum, and 32-64 for the few games that might be able to do something with that with higher-end CPUs. If 96 cores can go into that Epyc chip, surely 16 can work fine in consumer stuff at a minimum. Actual workstations and professional app users can deal with SMT and higher thread counts where all that might be a benefit.

                I'm of the opinion that SMT/HT and even CCX/CCD are shortcuts and marketing gimmicks that cause nothing but scheduler difficulties and issues across different platforms. I have a 2700X now and I'd rather have 16 real cores, vs 8 cores, split into two, with 4 in each group that communicate over a slower path causing performance issues for non-aware schedulers and drivers. Sure I could pin applications to certain cores and make sure IRQs only run off of certain cores for certain devices and deal with the manual set-up of all of that, but why does this complexity need to exist for such a small amount of cores?

                Look at this nonsense: https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-...zen-7000-cpus/

                Crossing the CCD and/or having SMT on lowers performance even on 7000-series Ryzen CPUs.
                Last edited by Espionage724; 11 November 2022, 02:15 PM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by anarki2 View Post

                  Yes, Dell can keep sitting on their @rses while people switch to self built workstations or other brands. We waited for them to finally release Ryzen workstations, then ended up building them for ourselves from off the shelf parts.

                  They have ridiculously priced Alienware gimmicks with bundled GPUs. No thanks.
                  true - unfortunately our company/institute has a contract with dell. so IT does not allow diy self builds :S.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by CochainComplex View Post
                    Very nice. Not only servers. Also AMD Workstations and Desktops are still underpresented in the OEM Fields. Have a look at Dell.
                    Dell is simply still taking money from Intel to be loyal.

                    They need to be sued and charged with whatever they can.

                    I do my darnest to avoid buying Dell for this reason.

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