Ubuntu 17.10's Laptop Issue Appears To Be Under Control, Fixable

[sverris]

Technical explanation what the problem seems to be:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...7/comments/330

(Mika Westerberg is in charge of 'intel-spi' at Intel, I guess.)
(Strange specification and/or implementation actually, if a BIOS, which turns read only, cannot perform a reset anymore.)

[starshipeleven]

I just don't know what to think about Linux anymore. Every single disto i have ever tried has had problems or my own stupidity has caused problems, but man oh man "Linux Bricks your computer".

Cheer up!
Windows bricks your computer too. https://forums.windowscentral.com/wi...ould-i-do.html

Also Apple can pull this off https://origin-discussions-us.apple....art=0&tstart=0

[F.Ultra]

I am a devout Ubuntu user, consider it the best distro currently available with only Solus, Mageia, GhostBSD and OpenIndiana coming close but Canonical is a company that generated 126 million bucks last year, there is no excuse for the lack of Q&A testing that resulted in this mess, if Apple or Microsoft had this happen to them we would be ready to nail them to the nearest wall; if Linux is ever to become a credible player on the desktop we can't have these things happening in 2017.

Where where you when the Windows 10 Anniversary Update bricked a shit ton of computers? http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...-breaking-pcs/

And a simple Google search would tell you that macOS have their own long line of bricked computers due to updates as well.

edit: and of course starshipeleven already beat me to it...

[Adarion]

Everyone who tampers with firmware or closely related chips is endangered to brick a device. Though MS Windows actually managed to apply automatic updates to mainboard firmware and in at least one case more they bricked iirc. some mini-ITX mainboard. Firmware updates should always be done under supervision and with consent and conscience of the user/owner. I mean, imagine you have (for whatever reasons...) W10 running and the next day you box doesn't start and is totally bricked cause W10 decided to flash the BIOS yesterday evening and the thing just bricked.

[PackRat]

Cheer up!
Windows bricks your computer too. https://forums.windowscentral.com/wi...ould-i-do.html

Also Apple can pull this off https://origin-discussions-us.apple....art=0&tstart=0

Well at least Linux users have creative solutions. In this Lunduke video with system76 using a raspberrypi with a romclip attachment that flashes the rom.
https://youtu.be/MujjuTWpQJk?t=746 at 12:57

[Anvil]

I am a devout Ubuntu user, consider it the best distro currently available with only Solus, Mageia, GhostBSD and OpenIndiana coming close but Canonical is a company that generated 126 million bucks last year, there is no excuse for the lack of Q&A testing that resulted in this mess, if Apple or Microsoft had this happen to them we would be ready to nail them to the nearest wall; if Linux is ever to become a credible player on the desktop we can't have these things happening in 2017.

$126 Mill ? thats walking down the street money for Redhat.

[PackRat]

$126 Mill ? thats walking down the street money for Redhat.

Redhat walks straight to the apple store and buy's macbooks, now we know why they don't care about desktop linux...

[Anvil]

Redhat walks straight to the apple store and buy's macbooks, now we know why they don't care about desktop linux...

love the name, suits you , pretty much like your posts.

[Spooktra]

Also, the issue is not Ubuntu-specific. It was just found on Ubuntu because they have a very large userbase as compared to many other distributions.

Really, so you have decided not to read any of the technical data posted in this thread? The problem lies with the way Ubuntu configured kernel 4.13 to use the Intel SPI driver, they are obviously doing something no one else is doing.

As for Ubuntu's user base, I would think that Debian proper, Linux Mint and Red Hat would have a much larger user base, yet there are zero reports of this happening with those distros.

[Anvil]

Redhat walks straight to the apple store and buy's macbooks, now we know why they don't care about desktop linux...

wonder why they use macbooks?