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  • #31
    Originally posted by bug77 View Post

    Almost makes you wish there was a DE that lets you configure it to look like you describe above, doesn't it?
    XFCE?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by M@GOid View Post
      I was taking a look at Ubuntu 17.10 this week, looking at the things they did to easy the transition from Unity.

      - The side bar really helps, but need a little more contrast to highlight what application is active. Right now they put a small dot on the icons to indicate what app is running but is difficult to see what is the active one on the moment;

      - There is a big loss in vertical space with the big bars in the applications, compared to what it used to be on Unity. Haters of the 16:9 screen ratio will be more upset than ever;

      - What is this fixation with the clock? They need a more big reminder of the hour to leave work not a minute later? Putting it on the center of the top task bar instead of the right and being the only thing on the lock screen. Speaking of lock screen;

      - I do not have a touchscreen. Why do you make me "slide" the screen with a mouse to put a password to finally unlock it?

      - Why did the Gnome developers sacrificed the mouse/touchpad users on the Altar of Touchscreen ®? The thick applications bars, the hiding of menus, the ridiculous slide to unlock the lock screen, etc etc, making the live of mouse users miserable?

      - The applet on the right taskbar is a ruge regression in usability. You used to do a lot of things in just 2 clicks, now everything is hided deep on the settings, just like Windows. For example, you could see you IP address in jut 2 clicks, now you need to go on network settings just to look at it, loosing a big advantage I used to throw in the face of Windows users, while I was explaining why Linux interface is more advanced and user friendly.

      I know this text turn up a big rant, but sincerely I believe dropping Unity was a downgrade to Ubuntu. I really do.
      If you press Esc on the lock screen you don't need to slide, it's a bit like pressing Cntl+Alt+Del on a windows machine to unlock

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      • #33
        Originally posted by M@GOid View Post

        XFCE?
        I believe anything that's not Gnome will do, but I haven't tried them all

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        • #34
          Originally posted by FireBurn View Post

          If you press Esc on the lock screen you don't need to slide, it's a bit like pressing Cntl+Alt+Del on a windows machine to unlock
          Good to know. But they really should leave touchscreen stuff disabled when not detecting one.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by bug77 View Post

            I believe anything that's not Gnome will do, but I haven't tried them all
            As a KDE user, I believe XFCE is the closest thing you will find on the GTK land. Really flexible and resourceful. I can see why debianxfce has crush on it. If I had to go for a GTK desktop, it would be my choice.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by FireBurn View Post
              If you press Esc on the lock screen you don't need to slide, it's a bit like pressing Cntl+Alt+Del on a windows machine to unlock
              Not really. The CTRL+ALT+DEL thing actually had a purpose.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by M@GOid View Post

                As a KDE user, I believe XFCE is the closest thing you will find on the GTK land. Really flexible and resourceful. I can see why debianxfce has crush on it. If I had to go for a GTK desktop, it would be my choice.
                Yeah, I remember I quite liked it too when I used it. I just haven't had a reason to run it in years, since KDE seems to run fine on virtually anything. At least when you don't hit a bug or something

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by M@GOid View Post

                  As a KDE user, I believe XFCE is the closest thing you will find on the GTK land. Really flexible and resourceful. I can see why debianxfce has crush on it. If I had to go for a GTK desktop, it would be my choice.
                  Yeah, I do agree, but I just wish it had a more modern compositor. I like wobbly windows, animated window actions, and rotating cubes and such. It's just eye candy, but in this day and age it's a default expectation. Maybe with their GTK3 port it will happen, I don't know. (Which is exactly why it should be properly version controlled so a GTK2 and GTK3 XFCE can be installed side by side, but that's not gonna happen unfortunately.)

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by ernstp View Post
                    He's just saying that it will ship sometime today...
                    And then a few hours later, he makes another article when the .iso's are up. It seems like wasted/duplicated effort, and it confused at least one person (the person I was responding to). I wasn't trying to make an international incident about it...

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                    • #40
                      I've been using KDE since the "2" days, it used to lead the way with aesthetics and I remember Gnome 2 looking as ugly as sin. I really like the look of Gnome now and I'm a bit bored of Plasma 5, it just doesn't look very polished. I'd probably have switched to Gnome if it was as easy to configure as KDE Plasma

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