Red Hat Formally Rolls Out Pipewire For Being The "Video Equivalent of PulseAudio"

[duby229]

None of those bugreports are from Gentoo either. That guy has proven himself to be the typical systemd/pulseaudio hater, ignorant and unwilling to learn. Apparently Gentoo users have been sitting on this "bug" for three years without doing shit. True or not, the only thing it says something about is Gentoo users.

Of course that's your own ignorance talking. You really didn't even bother fucking looking obviously.

[arokh]

The original statement:



So basically:
1 - Randomly pausing audio
2 - Multiple-second latency


The eventually reply with supposedly-related bugs:



Here is a summary of what I got out each bug report.

bug 786326 - audio not switching to new sink
bug 371897 - pops and clicks with spotify in wine
bug 448528 - mute when volume set below 15%
bug 441195 - mixer channels are mapped wrong for some devices
bug 527866 - recording volume keeps resetting to a particular level
bug 463535 - sounds from firefox at full volume regardless of pulseaudio main volume setting

I fail to see how any of these relate to the issues originally stated.

None of those bugreports are from Gentoo either. That guy has proven himself to be the typical systemd/pulseaudio hater, ignorant and unwilling to learn. Apparently Gentoo users have been sitting on this "bug" for three years without doing shit. True or not, the only thing it says something about is Gentoo users.

[JeansenVaars]

So, what does it do right now on Fedora 27 beta? does it allow screen sharing on Wayland at least?

[duby229]

We all know that sex sells

Pretty girls sell sex, not fat hairy dis-formed goat-man lookalikes.

[Nille_kungen]

PulseVideo sounds vaguely pornographic.

We all know that sex sells

[duby229]

The original statement:



So basically:
1 - Randomly pausing audio
2 - Multiple-second latency


The eventually reply with supposedly-related bugs:



Here is a summary of what I got out each bug report.

bug 786326 - audio not switching to new sink
bug 371897 - pops and clicks with spotify in wine
bug 448528 - mute when volume set below 15%
bug 441195 - mixer channels are mapped wrong for some devices
bug 527866 - recording volume keeps resetting to a particular level
bug 463535 - sounds from firefox at full volume regardless of pulseaudio main volume setting

I fail to see how any of these relate to the issues originally stated.

I think -that- is the root cause of the problem right there exactly. It's perfect right? You guys don't even bother trying to figure out how these related problems are caused. You just summarized the symptoms and then just simply blew it off as if they can't possibly be related. But the symptoms themselves definitely feel like the same cause. Especially so 441195, 441195, 527866. And that isn't even close to all of them. I stopped looking after a few minutes because there are just so many of them.

[whydoubt]

The original statement:

On Gentoo PA just simply pauses the audio by itself for completely unexplainable reasons. There has been no input on it, no advice, no solution. It's been this way since at least 3 years. Plus there's the multiple seconds of latency that is completely unavoidable. That also has had no input, no advice and no solution. It those two major bugs that make it unusable for -me-.

So basically:
1 - Randomly pausing audio
2 - Multiple-second latency


The eventually reply with supposedly-related bugs:

Jeez, it's kinda like a mechanichal engineer asking a high school metal shop student to baby step him through the design of some machine part. It sounds so stupid to me.... But here goes.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/786326 probably
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/371897 probably
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/448528 definitely
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/441195 definitely
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/527866 definitely
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/463535 probably

I mean Really, I could keep going there are just so many of them. And most of them are probably the exact same fundamental root cause. All you guys ever had to do was click on the fucking link and look. It sounds so fucking retarded to me.

Here is a summary of what I got out each bug report.

bug 786326 - audio not switching to new sink
bug 371897 - pops and clicks with spotify in wine
bug 448528 - mute when volume set below 15%
bug 441195 - mixer channels are mapped wrong for some devices
bug 527866 - recording volume keeps resetting to a particular level
bug 463535 - sounds from firefox at full volume regardless of pulseaudio main volume setting

I fail to see how any of these relate to the issues originally stated.

[keantoken]

Will Pipewire output be bit-perfect?

Also does it use delay-locked loops like Pulseaudio?

[carewolf]

PulseVideo sounds vaguely pornographic.

Or like a food TV show for vampires

[GreatEmerald]

Yes, Pipewire should be a good fit for OBS

But will it really? Have you talked to the OBS devs? OBS does a lot of tricky things, so they have pretty high requirements. The main point is performance, from what I've seen; Xorg doesn't have a way to capture frames quickly enough, even with Xcomposite, which makes recording on Linux so far abysmally slow compared to Windows. Would Pipewire be able to, well, pipe the frames to OBS without doing any extra copies?

For a former discussion on the matter, see: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comme..._suck_so_much/