Clear Linux Switches From Xfce To GNOME, Benchmarks

[kn00tcn]

xfce is barely usable. I'm surprised anyone puts up with it. It's damn near impossible to resize a window by click+dragging the corner of the window. You have to be laser pinpoint accurate and get your mouse pointer on the exact corner pixel. Unfortunately, I've found you have to resize windows often in xfce as they often open in inexplicably weird sizes. And then there's the broken tear-ridden compositor and random thunar crashes...

Not a Gnome fan, but it's 100 times better than that mess.

the resize hitbox affects multiple window managers or DEs, it's not xfce specific

feel free to use a theme with wider borders (i actually prefer at least a few pixels visually as well), or use the keyboard modifier hotkey to resize from anywhere in the window instead of the corners

of course i think it's a dumb omission to not have a large virtual hitbox, but you're not exactly permanently forced to it

havent seen weird sizes other than vlc opening maximized at times, but only when using compiz not compton

speaking of which, compiz & compton mean you dont use xfce's broken vsync

thunar's columns dont seem to resize with the window, therefore it's crap & i changed file managers... feel free to do that as well, i dont understand why people want to be locked down to everything built into a DE

[dungeon]

Man. That was just too much for my abs to take. Have mercy.

"John Carmack coded Quake on a 28-inch 16:9 1080p monitor in 1995." How much inches your monitor have 22 years after?

[DebianXFCE Jr]

I can't understand why there are so many opponents to GNOME. With some tweaks and extensions it's great desktop environment. It's compact and stable (for me more stable than KDE). Client Side Decorations is great feature on smaller screens, like my laptop.

I'm not surprised with results. Mutter has ability (like any serious composition window managers) to undirect full screen window, so performance should be same as light window managers (Openbox for example). Well, I done some benchmarks with Unigine in GNOME and Fluxbox. In windowed mode fluxbox was faster by ~7FPS, in full screen mode both had same performance. This is what I said.

The part: "With some tweaks and extensions".
A DE should have that by default. It's like stitching genitals to castrated person. I'm with you but on absolutely on the other side of the fence. I don't understand how DE that ships with pre-configured shortcut suite can be called innovative?
And it's not only about performance. Personally I'm Mate/Xfce user and I find those des superior to gnome3 anytime.

[DebianXFCE Jr]

How would otherwise hardware companies sells you anything, if you don't have right amount bloat to run I don't expect somebody to buy 16c/32t AMD's Threadripper + 8K monitor and to run Motif GUI on it. Hardware goes up an now Ghone OS suddenly looks normal

Further, Ghone 4 would probably be designed for 32K monitors and for 256 threads CPUs running on Vulkan 3 and so on

Man. That was just too much for my abs to take. Have mercy.

[dungeon]

GNOME is the standard Linux desktop.

I don't think so , statistics that both Gnome and KDE together is currently used less than something else Of course on particular hotspots where there is no choice it likely is

See this for example:

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/users/statistics

Gnome + KDE =~45% which means that else is 55% . On Linux, "standard" is usually not what you expect - neither is Gnome, neither KDE - somewhere as you see not even together

On Debian popcon even where Gnome was *always* default (Debian, where more than 80% userbase use Stable branches and very optimistically guessed maximum of 20% these who roll) Gnome was actually at about 30% last time i checked, etc... If you think that standard is something that is used by 1/4 of userbase on average than i can say OK, but i don't think so

Ubuntu will likely bump some percentage for Gnome next year, but how much that will be... is yet to be seen

[eggbert]

xfce is barely usable. I'm surprised anyone puts up with it. It's damn near impossible to resize a window by click+dragging the corner of the window. You have to be laser pinpoint accurate and get your mouse pointer on the exact corner pixel. Unfortunately, I've found you have to resize windows often in xfce as they often open in inexplicably weird sizes. And then there's the broken tear-ridden compositor and random thunar crashes...

Not a Gnome fan, but it's 100 times better than that mess.

[dungeon]

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[Jumbotron]

This is FANTASTIC news !!! Intel recognizes GNOME is now THE standard Linux desktop. The only outlier now is Opensuse and more than likely they're staying with KDE simply as a differentiator. Of course they still offer GNOME and I bet they find more of their customers going with GNOME in the future.

It will be interesting to see if Intel will find issues with GNOME and upstream them thus benefitting everyone. None the less....GNOME is the standard Linux desktop and this will help adoption going forward.

[Avant]

I find these benchmarks really surprising, I mean have never seen slower desktop environment than this and of course cinnamon and budgie :/
kde, xfce, lxde, mate and even unity and windows are by far more responsive and smooth than this.
It's the only desktop env that lags when you move windows around... really wtf it's 2017 for fucc sake