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Prejudices exist... Period. Women get paid less than men. Black men are far more likely to get pulled over while driving. White men are forced to pay the vast majority of taxes....
Counters to prejudices are absolutely necessary. Even when concerning open source software development.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostPrejudices exist... Period. Women get paid less than men. Black men are far more likely to get pulled over while driving. White men are forced to pay the vast majority of taxes....
Counters to prejudices are absolutely necessary. Even when concerning open source software development.
Are you perhaps implying that black or hispanic americans, being non-rich aren't forced to pay most taxes too like any other non-rich?
Also, more importantly, why countering prejudices with other prejudices is a good idea at all?
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostHey hey hey, stop right there. What is this bs you're trying to smuggle in?
Are you perhaps implying that black or hispanic americans, being non-rich aren't forced to pay most taxes too like any other non-rich?
Also, more importantly, why countering prejudices with other prejudices is a good idea at all?
Let me counter your question with another question, Why do cities have Fire Departments? Seems simple right, you need one to deal with fires that inevitably occur in cities. Just as inevitably there are barriers to entry that revolve entirely around prejudice. It's the reason for affirmative action at the federal level for example and why programs like this are needed at the community level.
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EDIT: And why you would call programs like this prejudice is beyond me. If a person didn't get a job because of prejudice, but because of a program, like this one, was able to obtain a different one, how is that itself prejudice? Countering prejudice by affording opportunity to those that suffer under it, is most definitely not itself prejudice.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostWho actually pays the vast majority of taxes? White men. It doesn't take a rocket surgeon to guess why.
2. the answer is "whoever is not rich enough", not "white men"
3. you are only stating the same thing you said again, not providing an answer.
Let me counter your question with another question, Why do cities have Fire Departments? Seems simple right, you need one to deal with fires that inevitably occur in cities. Just as inevitably there are barriers to entry that revolve entirely around prejudice. It's the reason for affirmative action at the federal level for example and why programs like this are needed at the community level.
Keeping in line your current example, it would be like equipping Fire Departments with artillery so they can put out fires with artillery bombardments. They would be doing more harm than good.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostEDIT: And why you would call programs like this prejudice is beyond me. If a person didn't get a job because of prejudice, but because of a program, like this one, was able to obtain a different one, how is that itself prejudice? Countering prejudice by affording opportunity to those that suffer under it, is most definitely not itself prejudice.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View PostBecause this program has a barrier to entry. That IS prejudice.
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Originally posted by starshipeleven View Post1. rocket SCIENTIST (i.e. a rocket designer), rocket surgeons don't exist.
2. the answer is "whoever is not rich enough", not "white men"
3. you are only stating the same thing you said again, not providing an answer.
My point was about the method used to counter prejudices.
Keeping in line your current example, it would be like equipping Fire Departments with artillery so they can put out fires with artillery bombardments. They would be doing more harm than good.
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Originally posted by duby229 View PostYeah the barrier of entry they put in place is to limit it to a demographic that is known to suffer from prejudice. Affording those people opportunity is not itself prejudice in any possible way.
The fact that it is reversed does not make it any less bad or any less prejudice, prejudice ALWAYS creates inequality, anger, distinctions.
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