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  • #21
    Originally posted by baka0815 View Post
    aht0 beeing a German it's hard to not connect oneself to the second world war, because "we" started the whole mess. And we're still having problems with the right wing, see the "afd" and "npd" for example. We mustn't forget our hostory to never let anything like that happen ever again!
    Yeah and you paid for it fully in blood, have tried to make it good past 70 years and still get called out on it when accidentally or coincidentally using "incorrect" symbolism.

    For some reason I am not seeing identical attitude toward communist symbols, regardless of nearly 100 million dead various marxist regimes have caused over time and in some cases, are still adding to.

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    • #22
      When will germans rewrite Logical Volume Manager and rename it to Luft Waffe Manager?

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      • #23
        After Americans create new kernel scheduler named FBFH
        As if Fat Boy Falling on Hiroshima.

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        • #24
          And for anyone else suspecting me being German nationality. No, I am not. Just pissed over double standards.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by aht0 View Post

            Yeah and you paid for it fully in blood, have tried to make it good past 70 years and still get called out on it when accidentally or coincidentally using "incorrect" symbolism.

            For some reason I am not seeing identical attitude toward communist symbols, regardless of nearly 100 million dead various marxist regimes have caused over time and in some cases, are still adding to.
            Russia is currently fighting an illegal war they started themselves in Ukraine. They kill innocent people almost daily because they believe Novorossiya should be part of their magnificent country again. Almost 1% of their population has HIV, but who cares.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by aht0 View Post
              Btw, it's also serious hypocrisy.

              WW2 started on September 1 1939 with the Nazis attack on Poland. On September 17th 1939, Soviet army invaded Poland per secret agreements with it's ally Third Reich from the other side of Poland.
              So, it had two countries really starting the World War 2. Can't see anyone doing a burp on dudes posing with scythes/hammers, Stalin pictures etc.. It does not matter that allies-of-the-time turned of each-other some time later. Loser lost and is now "politically incorrect", Soviet shit which killed more people is on the other hand "fully okay". At least that much self-honesty should be present in person.
              While you talking about "hypocrisy of Soviets" how about mentioning pre-WW2 attempts of Poland to cut off a chunk of Ukraine for itself with the help of its collaborating Polish nationals, huh ? It backfired into the rise of Ukrainian nationalists who outperformed even natively German Nazi occupational forces in butchery of Polish and Ukrainian Jews or anyone who got in their way.

              Of course, Nazi occupational forces themselves used similar strategy to turn loyal "ultra-nationalist" collaborators of Ukraine into full-blown vassals, the thing that western oligarchy now is completing. Even using the same Nazi collaborator slogans, "Ukraine above all else !" and "Glory to Ukraine ! Glory to heroes !", that were used in occupation-time Nazi papers. Yes, that's right, "über alles" shit.
              These are same oligarch clans that built US military-industrial complex, even by actively collaborating with Nazi Germany before the start of the war. In turn, Hitler himself was highly inspired by their ancestors, who championed ultra-right policies of his youth.

              If you don't believe "Soviet/Russian propaganda", go watch "The Untold History of the United States" Oliver Stone documentary series with actual historical footage and document excerpts on all of 20th century. Even that toned down version will put some bolts in your head into the right places. I especially liked the part about US nuking and fire-bombing Japan without any strategic reason.

              >20 million Russians (as in "all citizens of Russian Empire's lands") _and_ >20 million Chinese died to combat the shit western oligarchy clans, both German and Anglo-Saxon, have formed and some ungrateful Nazi/ultraright-loving sons of bitches are still mad !
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              Regarding the actual topic: it sucks and is worthless. The future is in P2P decentralized data transfer and audiovisual representation.

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              • #27
                Wow. Can't believe what I've just read in this thread. . .

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by aht0 View Post
                  Btw, it's also serious hypocrisy.

                  WW2 started on September 1 1939 with the Nazis attack on Poland. On September 17th 1939, Soviet army invaded Poland per secret agreements with it's ally Third Reich from the other side of Poland.
                  So, it had two countries really starting the World War 2. Can't see anyone doing a burp on dudes posing with scythes/hammers, Stalin pictures etc.. It does not matter that allies-of-the-time turned of each-other some time later. Loser lost and is now "politically incorrect", Soviet shit which killed more people is on the other hand "fully okay". At least that much self-honesty should be present in person.
                  While you talking about "hypocrisy of Soviets" how about mentioning pre-WW2 attempts of Poland to cut off a chunk of Ukraine for itself with the help of its collaborating Polish nationals, huh ? It backfired into the rise of Ukrainian nationalists who outperformed even natively German Nazi occupational forces in butchery of Polish and Ukrainian Jews or anyone who got in their way.

                  Of course, Nazi occupational forces themselves used similar strategy to turn loyal "ultra-nationalist" collaborators of Ukraine into full-blown vassals, the thing that western oligarchy now is completing. Even using the same Nazi collaborator slogans, "Ukraine above all else !" and "Glory to Ukraine ! Glory to heroes !", that were used in occupation-time Nazi papers. Yes, that's right, "über alles" shit.
                  These are same oligarch clans that built US military-industrial complex, even by actively collaborating with Nazi Germany before the start of the war. In turn, Hitler himself was highly inspired by their ancestors, who championed ultra-right policies of his youth.

                  If you don't believe "Soviet/Russian propaganda", go watch "Untold history of United States" Oliver Stone documentary series with actual historical footage and document exerts on all 20th century. Even that toned down version would put some bolts in your head into the right places. I especially liked the part about US nuking and fire-bombing Japan without any strategic reason.

                  >20 millions Russians (as in "all citizens of Russian Empire's lands") _and_ >20 millions Chinese died to combat the shit western oligarchy clans, both German and Anglo-Saxon, have formed and some ungrateful Nazi/ultraright-loving sons of bitches are still mad !

                  Originally posted by aht0 View Post

                  Yeah and you paid for it fully in blood, have tried to make it good past 70 years and still get called out on it when accidentally or coincidentally using "incorrect" symbolism.

                  For some reason I am not seeing identical attitude toward communist symbols, regardless of nearly 100 million dead various marxist regimes have caused over time and in some cases, are still adding to.
                  Which ones exactly ? And are those really "Marxist regimes" or few dictatorships with populist Marx-like promises ?
                  And what if we compare it with massacres of anti-communist anti-equality movements ? Like perpetual US anti-feminist and anti-labourer Red Scare government/corporate terror campaign inside the country and pure ideological cleansing outside, such as "Indonesian Communist Purge". And the US formation of Al-Queda as a anti-communist insurgency force. Let's not forget about that.

                  Originally posted by caligula View Post

                  Russia is currently fighting an illegal war they started themselves in Ukraine. They kill innocent people almost daily because they believe Novorossiya should be part of their magnificent country again. Almost 1% of their population has HIV, but who cares.
                  No shit ? Did TV said you that ?
                  Did "Novorossiya" bombed its own towns then ? And did Crimea cut off its own water and electricity supply from mainland Ukraine ? And did it block the access to Google and western banking for itself too, all Iran-like and shit ?
                  Is it Russia who made Ukrainian US vassal Poroshenko and his state security chief to answer directly to the CIA ? Did Russia made a present to Baiden's son in form of most of Ukraine's natural gas resources in the Ukrainian civil war region via the "Burisma Holdings" ?
                  Oh, you western fuckers will pay for all dead Ukrainians from both sides someday.

                  And quantity of HIV-infected people in Russia is still lower than in US even by "CIA World Factbook".
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                  Regarding the actual topic: it sucks and is worthless. The future is in P2P decentralized data transfer and audiovisual representation.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by aht0 View Post
                    Btw, maybe it's about time to give up connecting Germans to WW2 "war guilt" in every conceivable way..? War was way back and none of the current generation had any hand on it. Might as well accuse Italians for atrocities Roman legions committed.
                    It has cultural reasons to avoid the same error. Nazism is getting quite strong these days and specially (but not only, as it's a global tendency) in Germany, eastern Europe in general.

                    Germanism was the main root to where nazism grown.

                    We now have Merkel ruling European Union now, people do comparisons as a way to satirize it.

                    Originally posted by aht0 View Post
                    Btw, it's also serious hypocrisy.

                    WW2 started on September 1 1939 with the Nazis attack on Poland. On September 17th 1939, Soviet army invaded Poland per secret agreements with it's ally Third Reich from the other side of Poland.
                    So, it had two countries really starting the World War 2. Can't see anyone doing a burp on dudes posing with scythes/hammers, Stalin pictures etc.. It does not matter that allies-of-the-time turned of each-other some time later. Loser lost and is now "politically incorrect", Soviet shit which killed more people is on the other hand "fully okay". At least that much self-honesty should be present in person.
                    Of course Nazis regime was a lot better than corrupt Soviet one. There's no justification to both.

                    Nazism has a very religious-like fanatism and extreme violence tendencies that often surpasses those of most braindead communist Stalin zealots. But there's also stuff like Pol-Pot and other shit.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by caligula View Post
                      Russia is currently fighting an illegal war they started themselves in Ukraine. They kill innocent people almost daily because they believe Novorossiya should be part of their magnificent country again. Almost 1% of their population has HIV, but who cares.
                      As Russian I can confirm that.

                      And by they way, don't believe what Russia Today/Ruptly talk about Ukraine, Russia actions, etc., because they lie. Good channel besides that.

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