Firefox 49 To Offer Linux Widevine Support, Firefox Also Working On WebP Support

[starshipeleven]

Unenforceable law is the same thing as no law at all, and selectively enforcing an otherwise unenforceable law is the same thing as tyranny.

I'm not talking of law, but of right and wrong. Also of effective and ineffective.

[duby229]

Read the Mozilla bug thread that I posted above and that will give you the full picture of why it isn't a done deal. It's not as simple as "Use VDPAU!" or "Use dis here media playa!". Acceleration needs to work in the browser - external players are a mess, especially with forks - and the foundation just isn't there yet.

Hopefully this doesn't get stuck in the mod queue....

I did read the link you posted, but I think you misunderstood the point. It clearly indicated that the video acceleration code was written for windows. Obviously in that scenario it's pretty easy to imagine that they didn't care about cross platform coding styles.

So the obvious solution is to throw that fucking garbage away! Start Over! And again XV works on -ALL- video cards in -ALL- computers with -ALL- distros. By itself that would take CPU loads from 70% down to 10%. There is mplayer, xine, gstreamer, vlc, and more that can already do that. For free and with compatible licences.

[duby229]

FFS. The mod queue is pissing me OFF!!!

[starshipeleven]

It's not about convincing me. It's about you being *plain wrong* about what constitutes stealing. Copyright infringement does not constitute stealing.

Hello? Making copies without consent of the owner is a blatant violation of fucking private property. I understand that being digital data it's harder to understand as it's not physical.
But if they were books or physical disks (that are also copies of a master, but in a physical form) there would not be much to talk about.

Heck, it's not even a crime!

In US it is, in EU it is, in most other civilized places on the planet it is, due to ACTA treaty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-C...rade_Agreement . Enforcement varies.

but peer-to-peer filesharing is not one of those forms.

p2p is just a medium and it is allowed to exist because it is neutral to the content moving through it. It's like a physical street.

[duby229]

Hello? Making copies without consent of the owner is a blatant violation of fucking private property. I understand that being digital data it's harder to understand as it's not physical.
But if they were books or physical disks (that are also copies of a master, but in a physical form) there would not be much to talk about.

In US it is, in EU it is, in most other civilized places on the planet it is, due to ACTA treaty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-C...rade_Agreement . Enforcement varies.

p2p is just a medium and it is allowed to exist because it is neutral to the content moving through it. It's like a physical street.

Tyrants will be overthrown every time. Unenforceable laws are exactly equal to no law at all. Tyranny always leads to anarchy. Every single time.

[starshipeleven]

Tyrants will be overthrown every time. Unenforceable laws are exactly equal to no law at all. Tyranny always leads to anarchy. Every single time.

Says the man that genuinely thinks a bunch of US citizens with guns have any kind of chance to win against the US military (or even just federals's SWAT teams) in a revolt.

Sorry, history of mankind never worked like that. The only revolutions that worked out were those where money was put by rich people and got support from other rich people outside of the nation.
These conditions aren't happening any time soon.

[Gusar]

Hello? Making copies without consent of the owner is a blatant violation of fucking private property.

LOL!

I understand that being digital data it's harder to understand as it's not physical.

It's exactly because the "property" (the use of quotes is deliberate) is not physical that the rules are different.

But if they were books or physical disks (that are also copies of a master, but in a physical form) there would not be much to talk about.

Well yes, if we were talking about stealing, there wouldn't be much to talk about. But we're not talking about stealing, we're talking about copyright infringement.

In US it is, in EU it is, in most other civilized places on the planet it is, due to ACTA treaty https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-C...rade_Agreement . Enforcement varies.

You do know that the EU rejected ACTA, don't you? It's right there in your link! "On 4 July 2012, the European Parliament declined its consent, effectively rejecting it, 478 votes to 39, with 165 abstentions."

Also, no, peer-to-peer filesharing is *not* criminal in the US, it's a matter of civil law.

[Gusar]

Damn the lack of edit button!

Ok, it seems peer-to-peer filesharing can fall under "willful copyright infringement" which can be constituted as a crime. But that hasn't happened in practice yet, it was always about civil penalties of $750-$150000 per copyrighted work.

[duby229]

Damn the lack of edit button!

Ok, it seems peer-to-peer filesharing can fall under "willful copyright infringement" which can be constituted as a crime. But that hasn't happened in practice yet, it was always about civil penalties of $750-$150000 per copyrighted work.

But, here is where it gets goofy. Copywrite infringement in America means that you took someone's copyrighted material and used it in some fashion that made a profit. Watching video's for your own personal entertainment is not infringement.

[duby229]

EDIT: Actually there is an older law called the Fair Use Act that specifically covers entertainment. It was written in a time before computers, so the terminology in the law requires some interpretation to make it work with modern concepts. But it is all there.