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  • wodencafe
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    Originally posted by dimko View Post
    And what next? Make all users use that specific distro, Because 'it just works' on their distro and refuse support for all other general purpose distros?

    It's called a Reference Implementation.

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  • bridgman
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    Correct.

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  • SystemCrasher
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    You need more than a GPL kernel - you need open source userspace that makes use of all the functionality you want in the upstream kernel driver. The amdgpu model only works because we have an aggressive open source effort as well.
    IIRC, Linux kernel devs are explicitly unwilling to accept code which is only useful for proprietary usermode parts, I guess you refer to this fact, right?

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  • bridgman
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    You need more than a GPL kernel - you need open source userspace that makes use of all the functionality you want in the upstream kernel driver. The amdgpu model only works because we have an aggressive open source effort as well.

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  • TeoLinuX
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    So, it has been discovered as a fake.

    And couldn't be otherwise because, if it's targeted towards developers/QA, why in the world should you be presented with a "select region" page?

    Nobody brought up this: unless they split the driver à la AMDGPU with a kernel GPL'd part ... they couldn't distribute a distro with a proprietary blob in the kernel. They should distribute a GPL only version AND a separate post-install tool for installing their drivers.

    As Michael pointed out, they have already plans/products for a gaming environment outside win10, and it's Shield Geforce NOW. If they need something in the desktop market: there's SteamOS. Or they could take a solid and proven popular distro and setup a PPA (or equivalent) and, maybe add something similar to the Steam marketplace (oh.. wait Geforce Now!).

    I really claim BS on this rumor.

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  • tweak42
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    Sounds like more less a rumor. .... but I could see Nvidia doing a respin (not a fork) of sorts based on SteamOS, just with skinned up Nvidia centric marketing material as to showcase *the power of Geforce* blah blah blah.

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  • schmidtbag
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    Originally posted by birdie View Post
    The amount of idiocy in this thread is staggering.

    First of all, NVIDIA's Linux distribution won't be substantially faster than distribution X/Y/Z because most distros are already well optimized. The most they can squeeze will be 3% performance extra by using -Ofast -mtune=generic but that will substantially reduce the stability of their offer.
    Uh oh! Look out everyone, birdie's laying down the law!

    Had it not occurred to you that there is more to performance than just measured frame rates? Look at the Catalyst divers - they may yield high numbers but the frame rates are visibly less smooth than the radeon drivers. You could also consider things like screen tearing, % of system resources used, and optimized scheduling.

    Originally posted by bug
    And yet, these notorious guys are the only ones offering performance that's on par with Windows.
    True, which is why I said this distro could actually turn out good. The thing about nvidia is even though they're arrogant, they're very rarely wrong about their decisions to achieve the best performance.
    Last edited by schmidtbag; 17 March 2016, 09:46 AM.

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  • omer666
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    If it reduces the amount of desktop refresh bugs, why not. I highly doubt it's true, though.

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  • bug77
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    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    This is definitely weird, though in retrospect, it isn't that surprising. Nvidia is notorious for stubbornly doing things their own way regardless of what everyone else wants. Tthe Linux community has always pressured nvidia to do things "the Linux way", where if they did it would make life easy for everyone (except maybe nvidia?). But, since Linux is open source but nvidia's software isn't, to me, it makes sense that nvidia can create their own distro and customize it to work entirely the way they think is best. And honestly, it might turn out pretty good. If they do custom kernels, it could really have a significant performance boost.
    And yet, these notorious guys are the only ones offering performance that's on par with Windows.

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  • carewolf
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    If done right, this would just be a supplementatary repo to debian. They could then maintain their own debian packages.

    I already ran into the issue of debian unstable not having new enough drivers to boot my GFX970 machines (because a NVidia in a patch release of a stable branch of drivers suddenly marked it as unsupported and requiring the lastest driver).

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