Ubuntu 16.04 Still Isn't Shipping With VDPAU, VA-API or OpenCL By Default

[Kano]

deri
Your Intel GPU must be very old. Most codecs are supported for Sandy Bridge and newer. Skylake added HEVC 8 bit.

[deri]

deri
Your Intel GPU must be very old. Most codecs are supported for Sandy Bridge and newer. Skylake added HEVC 8 bit.

Old? I got 6600K skylake

[droidhacker]

All the time, for many reasons:

1. For installation media or for recovery media for potentially compromised systems, rewritability is a bug. (ie. I always use write-once, read-many media for my Live CD and installation media. Even if I'm booting off it, I still want to know that it can't have been accidentally changed since I verified the SHA-1 at burn time.)

sdcards (full size) have a switch for write protecting them.

2. The cost of a high-quality DVD+R, when bought in bulk, is 50¢ or less, even when you amortize the cost of a cheap DVD burner over the course of its usable lifetime. The base cost for a thumbdrive dwarfs that, regardless of capacity, which makes them a poor choice for one-off things you're going to give away.

flash memory may cost more when you buy it from the store, but is rewritable, so when you buy a $5 sdcard ( http://www.amazon.com/Centon-Electro...eywords=sdcard ) that amounts to TEN dvdr's by price, but has something like 100,000 write cycles lifespan... makes the sdcard FAR less expensive than the dvdr's. Double the size, so equivalent of 200,000 dvd write cycles, $5/200,000=$0.000025 per use. That is 0.0025 CENTS per use. That means that you need to write it FOUR HUNDRED times before you have consumed ONE CENT worth of its value.

Why would you be giving them away? You know about things like NETWORKS? Share the FILE, not the ancient obsolete spinny disk. While YOU may have a dvd drive to make the disks, hardly anyone has one to actually READ the thing. I say this sitting at a laptop that does NOT have a dvd drive, and I sure as hell won't be buying one just to boot once off a disk that you burned.

3. For bulk storage, DVD+Rs are cheaper than flash memory and, in case of failure, a good Taiyo Yuden DVD+R is much more recovery-friendly than a rotating rust drive. (eg. At a comparable price per megabyte, dying mechanisms or electronics in a single drive will kill hundreds of gigabytes until an expensive specialist can be called in. For DVD+Rs, just spend another $20-30 on a new DVD burner. Also, dvdisaster makes it easy to augment an ISO with ECC at a level which protects the filesystem structures too.)

DVD's are incredibly unreliable. Not as bad as an old 3.5" floppy disk, but unless you keep your backups in triplicate, you can't depend on being able to read it back. In contrast, MUCH less expensive flash memory is HIGHLY reliable, and can be depended on YEARS later.

And in contrast to your assertion, magnetic disks are MUCH more reliable than DVDs, even for long term storage. And less expensive too.

Also think about keeping a backup of 4 TB. $115 for a 4 TB disk, vs 1000 * 0.50 = $500 for a thousand DVDs. And imagine the process of running the backup on those DVDs. Nightmarish to say the least. And good luck reading them all back, because that isn't going to happen on that number of DVDs. Ever. Doesn't matter what kind of ECC you think you have on the data, a big enough patch of bad on the disk and the ECC goes with it.

[pal666]

2. The cost of a high-quality DVD+R, when bought in bulk, is 50¢ or less, even when you amortize the cost of a cheap DVD burner over the course of its usable lifetime. The base cost for a thumbdrive dwarfs that, regardless of capacity, which makes them a poor choice for one-off things you're going to give away.

cmon, time cost to write dvd+r dwarfs cost of buying thumb drive

3. For bulk storage, DVD+Rs are cheaper than flash memory and, in case of failure, a good Taiyo Yuden DVD+R is much more recovery-friendly than a rotating rust drive. (eg. At a comparable price per megabyte, dying mechanisms or electronics in a single drive will kill hundreds of gigabytes until an expensive specialist can be called in. For DVD+Rs, just spend another $20-30 on a new DVD burner. Also, dvdisaster makes it easy to augment an ISO with ECC at a level which protects the filesystem structures too.)

all dvds will die in a few years, so you have to have some kind of redundancy and periodic checking. which will cost much more than cost of dvds. which makes raid0 harddrives much more attractive

[pal666]

And it broke. Finally, at the advice of my boss, I just used 32bit Ubuntu and behold - it worked.
Oh, Linux, some say you shall conquer the world, but I'm just happy when you boot into a desktop environment after a Mesa update )).ally use that iGPU for something *winning*.

why do you blame linux for ubuntu brokenness?

[Kano]

deri
But your distribution is old then. Try Kanotix 64 Spitfire Special.

[deri]

I got it solved by upgrading intel-vaapi using external ppa.

[Kano]

Basically VAAPI is relatively easy to update. Vulkan seems to be even more easy as you don't need to install the complete mesa but just libvukan_intel and a json config file.

[oibaf]

The problem is not that Mesa OpenCL and VAAPI re not installed by default, the problem is that they are not packaged at all in Ubuntu! OpenCL packages are disabled in mesa package, while they are enabled in Debian, from which the Ubuntu package is derived.