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  • Ubuntu 16.04 Still Isn't Shipping With VDPAU, VA-API or OpenCL By Default

    Phoronix: Ubuntu 16.04 Still Isn't Shipping With VDPAU, VA-API or OpenCL By Default

    While playing around with Ubuntu 16.04 LTS this weekend in its current development state, I was a bit surprised to see that this next Ubuntu release still isn't shipping with VDPAU, VA-API, or OpenCL support by default...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...v-Gfx-Defaults

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      Complete joke.

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      • #4
        Lazy on the part of ubuntu. Them not shipping the MP3 codec is understandable but this and for the reason of just a few megabytes is just the worst. Be like Linux mint and aim for a DVD size these days. DVD's are pretty cheap and I haven't seen many USB's for sale that are less than 2 gig.

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        • #5
          Another silly thing is that they no longer even package POCL
          Michael Larabel
          http://www.michaellarabel.com/

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SpyroRyder View Post
            Lazy on the part of ubuntu. Them not shipping the MP3 codec is understandable but this and for the reason of just a few megabytes is just the worst. Be like Linux mint and aim for a DVD size these days. DVD's are pretty cheap and I haven't seen many USB's for sale that are less than 2 gig.
            Are there still people using dvds?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by boffo View Post

              Are there still people using dvds?
              All the time, for many reasons:

              1. For installation media or for recovery media for potentially compromised systems, rewritability is a bug. (ie. I always use write-once, read-many media for my Live CD and installation media. Even if I'm booting off it, I still want to know that it can't have been accidentally changed since I verified the SHA-1 at burn time.)

              2. The cost of a high-quality DVD+R, when bought in bulk, is 50ยข or less, even when you amortize the cost of a cheap DVD burner over the course of its usable lifetime. The base cost for a thumbdrive dwarfs that, regardless of capacity, which makes them a poor choice for one-off things you're going to give away.

              3. For bulk storage, DVD+Rs are cheaper than flash memory and, in case of failure, a good Taiyo Yuden DVD+R is much more recovery-friendly than a rotating rust drive. (eg. At a comparable price per megabyte, dying mechanisms or electronics in a single drive will kill hundreds of gigabytes until an expensive specialist can be called in. For DVD+Rs, just spend another $20-30 on a new DVD burner. Also, dvdisaster makes it easy to augment an ISO with ECC at a level which protects the filesystem structures too.)
              Last edited by ssokolow; 21 February 2016, 08:48 PM.

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              • #8
                Just stumbled upon this bug "VA-API implementation for gallium missing" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+s...a/+bug/1481832
                Saw that Alex Deucher had commented.

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                • #9
                  For starters:

                  - opencl would need clang in main, which is not going to happen before it supports libstdc++ abi
                  - va-api has been buggy on the default video player (totem)
                  - defaulting to something that pulls in libva would mean moving ffmpeg and it's 30+ dependency packages in main.. good luck writing MIR's for those


                  and pocl needs someone to care about the package not building https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pocl

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                  • #10
                    From a more everyday user point of view - I recently came to learn the pain of using VDPAU with AMD hardware in Linux. I got a pair of fancy Powerline Adapters for my birthday last month, so I decided to turn my old PC, which I've "intended to sell" for about 8 months (i.e. it collected dust under my second desk), into a media/Steam Machine PC. Well, it turns out there is no sane way of making the closed source driver to do VDPAU decoding. So, I opted for the open source driver - fortunately Oibaf has us covered. But it turns out Steam, as a 32bit application, cannot work with the 64bit libraries. Thus I installed the 32bit dependencies as well. And it broke. Finally, at the advice of my boss, I just used 32bit Ubuntu and behold - it worked.
                    Oh, Linux, some say you shall conquer the world, but I'm just happy when you boot into a desktop environment after a Mesa update )).

                    PS The "good" news is AMD encoding with Steam In-home-streaming is completely broken on Windows, as well. Which means I can finally use that iGPU for something *winning*.

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