Is Ubuntu even still the flavor of choice for linux users these days? I ran away from Ubuntu around 2013 and boarded the linux mint ship for a while and then when Mint froze at 17.x I jumped again to Korora which I am loving. The magic of Ubuntu + Gnome2 has long since passed and I thought it has to this day been hemorrhaging its faithfuls since the default transition to Unity.
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Originally posted by Herem View PostAs mentioned in the article the main reason Canonical is off target is probably Ubuntu Touch being further behind in development than it was planned.
If Canonical had got Unity 8 onto the desktop and Touch working with all the convergence features I think the estimates would have been realistic. Without convergence in Touch or Unity 8 on the desktop there's been no compelling reason for user numbers to increase dramatically.
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Originally posted by humbug View PostYour last point is the real bummer IMO, professional software. There are no signs that this area is getting any better.
Suppose Disney or the US miilitary needed a new, super-powered, GPU accelerated everything video editor for 8K video but could not find a vendor who could be trusted to mantain the code for decades into the future? In that case, an open-on-abandon contract would suit their needs. Once opened these projects can be ported to Linux.
OK, nobody pays for my videos and I refuse to sell ads on them. No way in hell I will pay for video edititng software no matter how good it is, and in addition I don't trust the authors of closed software. Kdenlive is good ENOUGH for my purposes, if Adobe has something better that is of no relevance except as a target for trying to develop Kdenlive to equal at some future date, assuming the features in question would even be used. Someone at Disney making movies is not cost sensitive, but feature demanding. In this case we might be talking free software for free uses (most modern published video) and paid software for paid uses(the declining movie and TV industries).
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Originally posted by kenjitamura View PostIs Ubuntu even still the flavor of choice for linux users these days? I ran away from Ubuntu around 2013 and boarded the linux mint ship for a while and then when Mint froze at 17.x I jumped again to Korora which I am loving. The magic of Ubuntu + Gnome2 has long since passed and I thought it has to this day been hemorrhaging its faithfuls since the default transition to Unity.
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Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer View PostOS X has become a three tier platform for a reason: it works and pairs its hardware to provide a near seamless experience. The world is mobile and embedded. The back end is two tiers and those mobile users won't waste time with hobbled ecosystems. Linux never was going to win.
So, what Linux needs is ads, or maybe not, what is this "winning" anyway?
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I also think that most points dont matter especialy about photoshop and office and stuff like that. of course this niche users that need a 1000 Euro photoediticng programm will not switch, but we are talking about the mass, there is no autocad or photoshop for android so far (maybe some small joke version of it, I dont know of) still it has more users than windows 10 and windows 8 and windows 7 together. ok maybe I should not count phones but tablets of course, they replace pcs. not for everybody and for all of them but maybe a person had a few years 2 3 pcs and now only one and a tablet like my father. And also like me, ok I have 3 pcs but one is a htpc (linux) and one is gaming (still windows) and one is laptop/workpc (linux) but there is a tablet too. K because I care about freedom and nsa and stuff and I am one of the few that found a late love to mechanical or at least keyboards at all, I would consider something like a 2in1 laptop if they would be straight forward with linux support and not that garbage 32bit uefis, but that are special requirements.
Netbooks was a good example, they got sold with linux on it at the beginnig, then MS gave away the windows for that devices nearly for free so the companies started to preinstall windows again, but it sold fine and nobody asked for autocad, heck even with windows nobody did run these slow machines autocad or photoshop most likely not even ms office (except the cracy people).
So that is all not needed you need the preinstalls not more not less, then the proprietary companies support them from alone its also the only way to make them support it. Not that I care about that, its more a horror vision that more of this evil companies poison the linux desktop.
Canonical also proofs that the success of a evil linux company can hurt GNU/Linux, it fragments the whole ecosystem everything has now be developed 2 times 1 time with the canonocial loogo on it and one time 99% identical without it.
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1. there was a time where many developer bought macs, partialy because of the often relative good hardware, and linux on this machines never works perfectly so they keep macosx and because they are lazy and its linuxish enough to be ok for many of them.
but there are backlashes to that, but so much about that, macosx has some small sucess but the main enemy is still windows if you care about market share at all.
2. I think steamos and gaming companies start to support linux will change linux a bit, get some commercial support/influenses, but it will change them too. As example there is no good reason except drm that is often serverside anyway or gets broken in 24 hours anyway or companies sell their games without drm anyway on gog. So there is only the weak excuse of drm that may be for some titles very important for most others not, to not open up even the AAA games under the GPL.
Some people that dont know the free software / opensource lisenses will shurly argue "but then the game cant be sold" thats not true, you can still keep the rights on the name and more important on the artwork which is the bigger part in most games. So companies would not loose much, if more than 1 company would do that, they could even start share some code and make production of games a bit cheaper... but thats only a small side-aspekt, its more about marketing or giving the customer what he asks for. But even that would be good we see on the last badman title how they cant even provide a stable/good game for windows. so opensourcing their games will happen sooner or later. one will start maybe valve itself then they see that it works and even gets more customers for that, and then in this hard competition the rest will follow.
So having propriatary support for linux is maybe not neccessary, of course thats more difficult for autocat or photoshop because there the code is the main product, and maybe engines, but they at least gave the code free for too, and for them its easy to track if somebody sells a product with their engine without lisense.
So I guess this apps will stay proprietary if they then make some f2p versions with adds or something like that as alternative "payment" modell we will see. But because they relay on users that are used to pay for propriatary closed source apps, they will not by them self happily support linux, except maybe some cloud versions.
So starting with the games is a better strategie.
Also I am interested in how much wayland will inpact, fro me personaly I dont care to much, was hyped more about it. but for normal users it could make a huge difference, I dont know the mac but windows feels the gui like the os, and linux feels the gui always like an optional addon, what it in reality is, too. technicaly that changes with wayland not that much as far as I understand, but when it "display everything pixelperfect" without exploding monitors (flashes) it could feel much more similar to windows for adopters.
makes also installs faster I guess. because it should be much smaller (or do they only push all the code/stuff into gnome and co and this desktops gets bigger?
We will see hopefully this message dont gets into /dev/null like my last aperently.Last edited by blackiwid; 20 December 2015, 10:54 PM.
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Originally posted by Marc Driftmeyer View PostOS X has become a three tier platform for a reason: it works and pairs its hardware to provide a near seamless experience. The world is mobile and embedded. The back end is two tiers and those mobile users won't waste time with hobbled ecosystems. Linux never was going to win.
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