Another Longtime Linux Developer Looks To Distance Himself From The Kernel Community

[newwen]

- modern art

I wouldn't call that an achievement, but a tasteless degenerate crap.

[Luke_Wolf]

But thats a normal problem everywhere. Someone has to make decisions, no matter if people will like them or not. And if you don't have such a person your codebase will end up one huge stinking pile of garbage because everyone builds stuff the way they want. Not wanting to defend anyone, but "thats life, deal with it".

Basically, yes. But that's also the nice thing about open source, if you don't like it... Fork. Which he did.

[YoungManKlaus]

That wouldn't solve the problem Garret is talking about. He's not giving up "because the mailing list is full of trolls", he's giving up because Torvalds is an opinionated asshole, and blocks and argues over things just because he doesn't like a concept such as BSD securelevels.

But thats a normal problem everywhere. Someone has to make decisions, no matter if people will like them or not. And if you don't have such a person your codebase will end up one huge stinking pile of garbage because everyone builds stuff the way they want. Not wanting to defend anyone, but "thats life, deal with it".

[Serafean]

Let's see:

Achievements of the left (et al):

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Achievements of the right (et al. Sadly):
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Achievements of the extreme right : WW2
Achievements of the extreme left : The soviet block.

Seriously, get some critical thinking....

[milkylainen]

Oh please. Cry me a river.
I could not care less. While I do agree that the kernel developers are sadist a-holes at times, no one EVER said that technical discussions with with skilled people is going to be like holding hands and singing kumbaya near a camp fire and everything is going to resonating in uniform harmony.
This is pure and utter bullshit. People have opinions. Sometimes people get hurt from not getting their will through. Sometimes people do and suggest stupid things. Not everyone can be pleased and get everything they want through. If that were the case then Linux would be a more utter mess than it already is.
Frankly I think that Linus is FAR TO NICE with the shit that comes through at times.
It is not a bloody committee in the end. Linux is Linus baby. He started it, he has nurtured it through all these years. In the end, he steers it as he see fit. Don't like it? Well you can always go around coding your own kernel... Hell, use GPL and you can fork it straight of the mainline tree.
Once you start taking everything personally it's going to be a utter failure socializing with other humans.

I think everybody should have heated discussions. It shows REAL passion. Get real pissed at each other, cool down and then grab a beer after work.
Tough love. People you don't care about you can be nice to all day. Because you don't really care what they think.
People you care about you tend to be harsher against, because you just want them to do the right thing or want the right thing for them.

[quaz0r]

Aww. That's 2 women we lost now in just a couple days.

[ihatemichael]

Let's see:

Achievements of the left (et al):

- The PC
- The internet
- Freedom of speech
- The forty hour work week
- modern art
- Women?s Voting Rights
- Bank Deposit Insurance (that's right! "Freedom loving" Conservatives don't mind seeing someone else steal your money)
- Clean water
- the USA
- Free education
- Science

Achievements of the right (et al. Sadly):

- Irrational hatred
- Laziness
- Ignorance
- uninspiredness
- global wars
- nationalism
- Science denialism
- Religion

Yes. "Leftism" is the cancer...

Did the PC and Internet really came from the Left wing? I thought those came from the Industrial Revolution (Capitalism), so right-wing?

Or are you talking about PC as in Political Correctness?

[peppercats]

Let's see:

Achievements of the left (et al):

- The PC
- The internet
- Freedom of speech
- The forty hour work week
- modern art
- Women’s Voting Rights
- Bank Deposit Insurance (that's right! &quot;Freedom loving&quot; Conservatives don't mind seeing someone else steal your money)
- Clean water
- the USA
- Free education
- Science

Achievements of the right (et al. Sadly):

- Irrational hatred
- Laziness
- Ignorance
- uninspiredness
- global wars
- nationalism
- Science denialism
- Religion

Yes. &quot;Leftism&quot; is the cancer...

Left doesn't mean everything I like and right doesn't mean everything I dislike, idiot.

[unixfan2001]

More leftist politically correct cancer.

Let's see:

Achievements of the left (et al):

- The PC
- The internet
- Freedom of speech
- The forty hour work week
- modern art
- Women’s Voting Rights
- Bank Deposit Insurance (that's right! "Freedom loving" Conservatives don't mind seeing someone else steal your money)
- Clean water
- the USA
- Free education
- Science

Achievements of the right (et al. Sadly):

- Irrational hatred
- Laziness
- Ignorance
- uninspiredness
- global wars
- nationalism
- Science denialism
- Religion

Yes. "Leftism" is the cancer...

[Michael_S]

More leftist politically correct cancer.

Sarah and Matthew didn't like how the Linux mailing list is run - though for two different reasons - so they left.

"Politically Correct" people get insulted over something harmless and claim insult from things that don't matter. As far as I can tell, you're the politically incorrect one, not them.