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  • signals
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    Originally posted by david_lynch View Post
    Like previous microsoft forays into linux, this is something which does not help linux in any sense of the word. I remember back when microsoft submitted some kernel patches, and people made a big deal of it - but their contribution was not to add cool features or improve performance - it was to facilitate capturing linux users on microsoft's "me-too" cloud service.
    That may have helped corporate Linux adoption more than you think. The work they did to get Linux running on their hypervisor allows us to deploy Linux-based solutions to sites that are already running a Hyper-V stack. Without the effort they put in to getting Linux to run in their virtual environment, those would have ended up being Windows-based deployments.


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  • akincer
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    Originally posted by Ronshere View Post
    And how long before they start to threaten lawsuits over alleged software infringements and so on and bully everyone else into quitting?
    Microsoft will still eliminate their competition. And probably slip their ultimate spyware into every Linux computer as well.
    Microsofts partners have always been dragging their feet when it comes to Linux but just watch what happens now. And I will bet they
    will be covered by vague copyrights, etc and used to kill off every other distro except Ubuntu, who is being run by former MS execs anyway.
    They already tried this via SCO. Remember that? Yeah, didn't work out so well for the proxy and MS isn't stupid enough to try their hand at it either. The Feds would be all over them in a heartbeat for trying to squash a viable competitor.

    Honestly I expect that if Windows 10 fails, embracing open source is not out of the realm of possibility. The future is moving towards a direction where the OS is less and less important. Sooner or later the ROI on Windows won't be there anymore under the current in-house model nor will any lock-in be relevant any longer. It may linger around for a long time for specialized applications, but for generalized computing not so much.

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  • david_lynch
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    Like previous microsoft forays into linux, this is something which does not help linux in any sense of the word. I remember back when microsoft submitted some kernel patches, and people made a big deal of it - but their contribution was not to add cool features or improve performance - it was to facilitate capturing linux users on microsoft's "me-too" cloud service. Big yawn. In this case, they continue to contribute nothing of value, but merely benefit from the hard work of the linux community while giving back nothing. It's a great bargain for the wealthy monopolist, eh?

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  • jbysmith
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    Originally posted by mmstick View Post
    I would argue that Windows isn't the right tool for any job. Not even the desktop and especially not with servers. Microsoft would be a lot more productive and earn much more money switching to Linux.
    And you're welcome to your opinion, but sadly that's all it is, there's a gazillion people who disagree with you. I know a fair number of enterprise developers who would love to argue the "especially not with servers" point. Outside of forum zealotry, actual professionals who use these tools on a daily basis know that their is no one platform to cover everything, it doesn't exist.

    Originally posted by Ronshere View Post
    And how long before they start to threaten lawsuits over alleged software infringements and so on and bully everyone else into quitting?
    FUD at it's finest, "how long" and maybes is cute. Meanwhile other companies are actually suing each other over software infringements, and shockingly Microsoft isn't one of them. Had to check my calendar and make sure it wasn't still 1995. Companies change, Microsoft has dramatically improved, other companies dramatically worsen, such as Google for example.

    My original point -- not everybody is selling an agenda and knows when to use the right tool for the job. Trying to preach to everybody that you only need one for everything is just absurd.
    Last edited by jbysmith; 19 September 2015, 09:56 AM. Reason: Typomograffical errors.

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  • schmidtbag
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    Originally posted by Ronshere View Post
    And how long before they start to threaten lawsuits over alleged software infringements and so on and bully everyone else into quitting?
    Microsoft will still eliminate their competition. And probably slip their ultimate spyware into every Linux computer as well.
    Microsofts partners have always been dragging their feet when it comes to Linux but just watch what happens now. And I will bet they
    will be covered by vague copyrights, etc and used to kill off every other distro except Ubuntu, who is being run by former MS execs anyway.
    Eh... for the time being, I don't expect that to happen. People like Linus Torvalds wouldn't allow such things to slip by so easily. Worst case scenario, the kernel gets forked and just drops everything MS implemented.

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  • Ronshere
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    And how long before they start to threaten lawsuits over alleged software infringements and so on and bully everyone else into quitting?
    Microsoft will still eliminate their competition. And probably slip their ultimate spyware into every Linux computer as well.
    Microsofts partners have always been dragging their feet when it comes to Linux but just watch what happens now. And I will bet they
    will be covered by vague copyrights, etc and used to kill off every other distro except Ubuntu, who is being run by former MS execs anyway.

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  • mmstick
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    Originally posted by jbysmith View Post
    I wouldn't read too much into it, picking the right tool for the job and all that, doesn't mean anything beyond that. This isn't even the first time they dealt with *Nix based systems.. used to use Microsoft Xenix way back in the day myself.
    I would argue that Windows isn't the right tool for any job. Not even the desktop and especially not with servers. Microsoft would be a lot more productive and earn much more money switching to Linux.

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  • schmidtbag
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    Originally posted by signals View Post
    Even that is a big deal. There was a time, not too long ago, where Microsoft never would have used a Linux-based software stack, even if it was the right tool for the job.
    Agreed. It's pretty sad that a company as big as MS that has done everything in it's power to eliminate competition can't develop something good enough for their own servers. That's like Ford designing a car with a Toyota engine in it - doesn't mean the product will be bad but it's a bit hypocritical.

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  • signals
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    Originally posted by jbysmith View Post
    I wouldn't read too much into it, picking the right tool for the job and all that, doesn't mean anything beyond that.
    Even that is a big deal. There was a time, not too long ago, where Microsoft never would have used a Linux-based software stack, even if it was the right tool for the job.

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  • FastCode
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    Management will burn them at the stake in a few short hours.

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