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  • #11
    Originally posted by jb.1234abcd View Post
    Distrowatch.com systemd poll results (Jul 2015)

    I use systemd and like it: 787 (30%)
    I use systemd and dislike it: 318 (12%)
    I am not using systemd and plan to use it: 111 (4%)
    I am not using systemd and plan to avoid it: 1170 (44%)
    Other: 260 (10%)

    Well, that's 12% + 44% = 56% against systemd.
    It's time to drop that trash ...

    So, how about an "against systemd" conference?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by jb.1234abcd View Post

      Well, if fanbase = users then yes. Who else should be the final judge ?

      Perhaps those who actually use the tools extensively like server administrators or those who make init scripts?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by jb.1234abcd View Post

        Well, if fanbase = users then yes. Who else should be the final judge ?
        I'm not saying distrowatch is wrong, just that you have to keep its demographics in mind. People looking for a new linux distro or people looking for a distro to fill a specific need. I just think that distrowatch by itself is kind of a narrow data point. If the data you want is contained within the realm of those demographics then it's fine, but it cannot represent anything outside of that.
        duby229
        Senior Member
        Last edited by duby229; 29 July 2015, 05:36 PM.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by jb.1234abcd View Post
          Distrowatch.com systemd poll results (Jul 2015)

          I use systemd and like it: 787 (30%)
          I use systemd and dislike it: 318 (12%)
          I am not using systemd and plan to use it: 111 (4%)
          I am not using systemd and plan to avoid it: 1170 (44%)
          Other: 260 (10%)

          Well, that's 12% + 44% = 56% against systemd.
          It's time to drop that trash ...
          It is missing the most important line:
          "I have no idea what systemd is, I just installed a linux distro through a pen drive: 2834823782374628346823468237462837 (99.99999999%)"

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          • #15
            Originally posted by jb.1234abcd View Post
            Distrowatch.com systemd poll results (Jul 2015)

            I use systemd and like it: 787 (30%)
            I use systemd and dislike it: 318 (12%)
            I am not using systemd and plan to use it: 111 (4%)
            I am not using systemd and plan to avoid it: 1170 (44%)
            Other: 260 (10%)

            Well, that's 12% + 44% = 56% against systemd.
            It's time to drop that trash ...
            Distrowatch?

            if you're going to use a poll at least use a real source like LinuxQuestions.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by jb.1234abcd View Post
              Well, if fanbase = users then yes. Who else should be the final judge ?
              Nobody, of course. We don't need a judge to decide what software to use or develop. Open source is not like a democracy. Users don't decide what developers should do or not do.

              It's quite simple:
              Developers decide what they want to develop.
              Users decide what they want to use.

              That's it.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by valeriodean View Post
                It is missing the most important line:
                "I have no idea what systemd is, I just installed a linux distro through a pen drive: 2834823782374628346823468237462837 (99.99999999%)"
                If you count up all the Hominids from the discovery of fire on up, there probably weren't that many people ever born.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by jb.1234abcd View Post
                  Distrowatch.com systemd poll results (Jul 2015)

                  I use systemd and like it: 787 (30%)
                  I use systemd and dislike it: 318 (12%)
                  I am not using systemd and plan to use it: 111 (4%)
                  I am not using systemd and plan to avoid it: 1170 (44%)
                  Other: 260 (10%)

                  Well, that's 12% + 44% = 56% against systemd.
                  It's time to drop that trash ...
                  These are certainly shocking figures, but they are also amazingly positive. I realise that I live in live in incredibly ignorant circles. None of the other linux users I know know what systemd is, in fact I'm not sure if they even understand what an init system is. But the fact that 56% of Linux users not only know what an init system is, not only know what systemd is, but are able to evaluate and critique it with such confidence that they are willing to avoid Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Gubuntu, Debian, Suse, Fedora, Rhel, Arch, future versions of Mint and quite a few other distros, wow quite astounding.

                  Its a bit strange that this tsunami that is passing through the Linux community, where all the top distros fall off a popularity cliff has completely passed me by.
                  Rich Oliver
                  Phoronix Member
                  Last edited by Rich Oliver; 29 July 2015, 07:18 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Who the fuck even visits distrowatch

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Ancurio View Post
                      Who the fuck even visits distrowatch
                      Only to get this train wreck of a discussion going again, the better question here is Who the fuck even visists systemd.conf? For those who actually would like to go, and I agree that it is not going to be that many people, will the cost for attending play a role.

                      And since when has participating in open source projects become expensive? Who will decide who gets to speak and who is supposed to only listen? Those who cannot attend will certainly have no say at all.

                      Mr. Robot's Elliot would probably snort a line of morphine at this fact and elaborate to the viewers how Red Hat became a part of Evil Corp, how a once small and beautiful but also short-sighted company got corrupted by its success, how it tried to take control over free software projects by turning them into profit-driven businesses to further widening the gap between the rich and the poor. Of course, we would smile at his sick character, but not without recognizing the truth of his rants.

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