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  • Ubuntu Community Council Reaffirms Its Decision Against Kubuntu's Leader

    Phoronix: Ubuntu Community Council Reaffirms Its Decision Against Kubuntu's Leader

    Earlier this week a huge fiasco began over the Ubuntu Community Council removing Jonathan Riddell from any leadership position relating to Ubuntu for one year. The Kubuntu Community Council came out in support of Jonathan as have many others from the community, but today the Ubuntu Community Council issued a lengthy statement where they re-affirm they will be sticking by their original decision...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...ity-Council-Up

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    If it any point in the last two years the CC had taken up its concerns with the Kubuntu council, the situation also could have been avoided.

    And I think the article downplays the reaction of the Kubuntu council. They didn't stick with Riddell, they flat-out rejected the CCs demands.

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    • #3
      Is that really the best they could come up with?

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      • #4
        This is because he's been very vocal against mir, i guess.

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        • #5
          We very much want KDE to feel welcome and included
          ...which is why we're kicking out the community-favourite developer of Kubuntu without warning and without any proof provided. Yeap, that sure will make KDE feel welcome and included

          Sheesh, Canonical is just making things worse for themselves all the time. First the whole Mint forced agreement ordeal, now this. It's like they're actively trying to alienate their own derivatives.

          Also, here's some articles on the whole situation from Planet KDE for more information:
          http://agateau.com/2015/innocent-until-proven-guilty
          http://scarlettgatelyclark.com/2015/...ntu-developer/
          http://linuxgrandma.blogspot.com/201...rtunities.html
          https://kver.wordpress.com/2015/05/2...adership-spat/
          http://jriddell.org/2015/05/26/reaff...buntu-council/

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          • #6
            seems like the Kubuntu community is fine with bullying and accusations as long as its against canonical.
            really sad to see, they dont have a problem with taking the money and other stuff canonical and the whole ubuntu community offers.

            so why not be honest and leave kubuntu? all that kindergarden with aggressive behaviour against ubuntu and canonical the last years is more than enough. and that is what this all is about: the constant aggressiveness from kde devs against ubuntu and canonical. seems like this all is intended by the kubuntu community and their kubuntu council.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by k1l_ View Post
              seems like the Kubuntu community is fine with bullying and accusations as long as its against canonical... so why not be honest and leave kubuntu?
              Indeed. It seems to be a childish disrespect of the UCC's authority. No matter what your opinion is regarding this case and Ubuntu in general, we have to respect that Ubuntu is their project and they get to decide, who they want to support and talk to. The UCC action IMHO is really rather mild and more along the line of: "you get to cool of for a year, and then we can talk again". To me personally, his unwillingness to recognize their request and failure to exhibit restraint and self-evaluation supports the motivation behind the UCCs decision.

              However I guess humility and respect is not a strong personality trait of all gifted software developers.

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              • #8
                I don't see why the Ubuntu derivatives aren't killed already. The difference between the derivative and the main Ubuntu is now bigger than to be considered simply a derivative. It's no longer a matter of just different UI, the graphics stack itself is now different. The Kubuntu community should now rebrand and rebase their distro on Debian, or should just kill it and move to a different KDE based distro.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by sarmad View Post
                  The Kubuntu community should now rebrand and.... or should just kill it...
                  Say, why don't we just leave it up to the Kubuntu community to decide what to do? It is their prerogative to choose their own direction.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Veto View Post

                    Indeed. It seems to be a childish disrespect of the UCC's authority. No matter what your opinion is regarding this case and Ubuntu in general, we have to respect that Ubuntu is their project
                    We don't have to have any respect for Ubuntu. The whole project is utterly dishonest. Pretending to be things that it is not. Ubuntu got where it is today, by the support of huge numbers of people. Huge numbers of people were deceived. Luckily many are starting to see through Mark Shuttleworth's manipulations and deceptions. Its noticeable that Steam were taken in and then realised that Canonical were not a company that they could trust.

                    Just the name "Ubuntu" should have been a warning to people. A business that uses that name is a sure sign of an organisation happy to cynically use empty slogans to deceive people into thinking they are part of a pluralist community venture, when they are not.
                    Last edited by Rich Oliver; 05-29-2015, 07:54 PM.

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