Ubuntu For Cars? It's A Possibility

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Ubuntu For Cars? It's A Possibility

Another interesting session today during the final day of this week's Ubuntu 15.04 Online Summit was about the prospects of bringing Ubuntu to cars...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTgzOTU

[tuxd3v]

They already exist!

In Portugal,

we already have a company producing Electric Cars(VEECO), with ubuntu as the core Os .

It have the ability to get updates over the air, detect malfunctions on the car, brake if the car on front of you brake to stop...emails, mobile phones, etc.

You can see them here(Its in Portuguese the video...maybe you can get some preview in English).
This was a prototype of the construction(maybe of year 2011-2012 , this car is already done, and Use Ubuntu at its core...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXEh8P3_elY

regards

[tuxd3v]

veeco

Hi guys,

I find a new video of veeco, with Ubuntu OS, and it his translated to english.

If you want to see ti look here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HB8iokoLDvY

regards

[secesh]

ha! no it's not.

In Portugal,
we already have a company producing Electric Cars(VEECO), with ubuntu as the core Os .

ubuntu running in a car is one thing. 'ubuntu for cars' is another.
Not to argue the merits of, but
- where is MIR?
- where is ubuntu for phones?

ubuntu needs to stop making wild promises it can't keep and focus on what it can realistically accomplish.

[Cerberus]

ubuntu running in a car is one thing. 'ubuntu for cars' is another.
Not to argue the merits of, but
- where is MIR?
- where is ubuntu for phones?

ubuntu needs to stop making wild promises it can't keep and focus on what it can realistically accomplish.

Mir is already used in Ubuntu Touch, it is in heavy development for desktop use (which is a lot more work) and it should arrive on desktops with 16.04 LTS, Wayland is not fully ready for the desktop as well, both need more work and support from GPU vendors. Ubuntu for phones is being finalized for release by Meizu and BQ in the coming months according to the latest news. They are accomplishing.

[blackout23]

Mir is already used in Ubuntu Touch, it is in heavy development for desktop use (which is a lot more work) and it should arrive on desktops with 16.04 LTS, Wayland is not fully ready for the desktop as well, both need more work and support from GPU vendors. Ubuntu for phones is being finalized for release by Meizu and BQ in the coming months according to the latest news. They are accomplishing.

Happily using Gnome 3.14 on Wayland since October.

[Luke]

We need open source for car engine computers

The computers that actually RUN cars are closed binary systems. Originally that was to discourage "tampering" for emissions control reasons, but now it is a concerted attempt to force car owners to rely on the dealers for service. We are lucky even to have devices that can read stored trouble codes, to reset them after repairs often requires disconnecting the battery to execute a forced reboot. We don't need entertainment systems in cars at all, but so long as cars exist we are dependent on computerized fuel injection to get any kind of reasonable fuel economy.

Some of these computers are growing malicious features. All GM cars for which OnStar is an option have the system installed whether you subscribe or not. Police and car rental firms can turn it on remotely to track or in some cases disable a vehicle. It would be trivial for GM to program the engine not to start if Onstar is physically removed-or to light the "check engine" light and fail emission inspection. Already the NHTSA has had to explicitly prohibit manufacturers from programming engines not to start of the check engine light is ignored, for fear that people would be trapped in dangerous places and killed. Such programming would have again used emissions as an excuse but had as its real goal more service volume at dealers. Some sub-prime lenders are making car loans conditional on installation of tracking/disabling devices that turn cars off if payments are missed. I would advise buying a clunker that costs the same as one payment on such a car instead.

The worst of all cases is the computer in the electric Nissan Leaf, which reports location and speed to any rss feed the car accesses and possibly back to Nissan. This, of course, can be subpeonaed and is an absolute reason to reject this car. The database Nissan is building from this will no doubt end up being sold on the open market, just as scammers offering overpriced or outright fake "extended warranties" are able to buy lists of car owners whose origianal warranties have just expired.

Too much of this sort of thing will force people to install aftermarket racing computers to run their cars, at a cost of thousands of dollars and countless hours of tuning to recover emissions control performance and gas mileage. A proper open source OS for the original computer could possibly be programmed to copy the baseline tuning from the original software prior to installation if the OEMs were required to make that information readable (the AMD model) or it were reverse-engineered(the Nouveau model).

Real worst case is that those dependent on cars are forced to drive older cars for privacy reasons, and unless they know how to restore them lose both emissions performance and fuel economy. At least in urban areas where privacy problems are the worst there is the option not to drive at all.

[rikkinho]

i doubt

Happily using Gnome 3.14 on Wayland since October.

i doubt, probaly you are using xwayland but ok

[TheOne]

Happily using Gnome 3.14 on Wayland since October.

With a lot of bugs you may mean, and sucky XWayland support

[tuxd3v]

ubuntu running in a car is one thing. 'ubuntu for cars' is another.
Not to argue the merits of, but
- where is MIR?
- where is ubuntu for phones?

ubuntu needs to stop making wild promises it can't keep and focus on what it can realistically accomplish.

To my understanding Ubuntu for cars, is an OS adapted to run at the core of control of your car!!
It will give you sensor information, manage phone calls , etc..

And this is what veeco have done!!

Ubuntu for cars, has nothing to do with MIR or Ubuntu for smart-phones...where is your logic??