Dosen't that kinda make you a hypocrite wanting everyone to give up on something they prefer?
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Originally posted by Commander View PostSo.....if the thermal's fail because of crappy BIOS/UEFI and then damages the hardware because the laptop wake up inside a case for some reason. Yeah i see that noone will blame the OS when it probably will shut down in Windows while it burns up in Linux.
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This is not a bug
This is the intended behavior.
The showstopper, anyway, is that this behavior can't be disabled, or the booting period extended, by editing a config file. A compilation flag is already too cumbersome. In most other programs a flag could suffice but in systemd case people in production having this kind of problem shouldn't have to set up a dev environment and recompile or hunt the net for a patched version which might or not might be identical to the one deployed.
I do not envy sysadmins for the next couple years...
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Originally posted by mpppp View PostThis is the intended behavior.
The showstopper, anyway, is that this behavior can't be disabled, or the booting period extended, by editing a config file
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Ahahaha, let me check if I understood it right:
every time I find a bug in an alpha release I should blame the upstream devs because of that?
Of course not but, because it is systemd, you can do an exception and became ridiculous on phoronix! Good idea.
The beta is planned for the next week, right? So the people have installed *alpha* software, isn't it?
Alpha software could be dangerous, pay attention! LOL
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Originally posted by grndzro View PostDosen't that kinda make you a hypocrite wanting everyone to give up on something they prefer?
Originally posted by valeriodean View PostAhahaha, let me check if I understood it right:
every time I find a bug in an alpha release I should blame the upstream devs because of that?
Of course not but, because it is systemd, you can do an exception and became ridiculous on phoronix! Good idea.
The beta is planned for the next week, right? So the people have installed *alpha* software, isn't it?
Alpha software could be dangerous, pay attention! LOL
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Originally posted by asdfblah View PostFor the n-th time: the problem is not systemd as an alternative, quite the contrary. The problem is that systemd is forcing people to use systemd through dependencies, leaving any alternatives on their own, for no good reason (other than "my feels" and "my innovation").
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Originally posted by Pseus View PostI keep hearing this. What dependencies are these? Is there any software other than Gnome that requires systemd? Isn't that Gnome's choice, rather than systemd's? These are honest questions.
i had debian jessie with xfce on a laptop and i removed networkmanager and its gtk applet
couple days later i wanted to put it back
installing nm-applet pulled in networkmanager, but it also pulled in gnome3 and systemd
i'm sure there is some logic behind it doing that, but what happened is just stupid
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Originally posted by Commander View PostSo.....if the thermal's fail because of crappy BIOS/UEFI and then damages the hardware because the laptop wake up inside a case for some reason. Yeah i see that noone will blame the OS when it probably will shut down in Windows while it burns up in Linux.
If you take a look at your kernel log sometimes, you can see such warnings in kernel log:
Code:[137547.968129] CPU2: Package temperature/speed normal [137547.968130] CPU0: Package temperature/speed normal [137548.124277] CPU2: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 16455155) [137548.124280] CPU3: Core temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 16455154) [137548.125289] CPU2: Core temperature/speed normal [137548.125291] CPU3: Core temperature/speed normal [137847.287143] CPU2: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 17888019) [137847.287147] CPU3: Package temperature above threshold, cpu clock throttled (total events = 17888017)
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but in systemd case people in production having this kind of problem
i had debian jessie with xfce on a laptop and i removed networkmanager and its gtk applet
couple days later i wanted to put it back
installing nm-applet pulled in networkmanager, but it also pulled in gnome3 and systemd
Today I wanted to install gnome-calculator from LXDE, the little bastard wanted to pull no less than 300megabytes of deps...
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