Former Valve/VOGL Dev: OpenGL Next Could Take 3+ Years

[phoronix]

Phoronix: Former Valve/VOGL Dev: OpenGL Next Could Take 3+ Years

Rich Geldreich, one of the original Valve Linux team members who started work on their VOGL OpenGL debugger, thinks it will take three years or more before the next-generation OpenGL materializes for users...

http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTgwODg

[Dukenukemx]

If that's the situation then we really need Mantle on Linux.

[who_me]

During one event on twitch.tv that was showing Civ: Beyond Earth, done in colab with AMD, I asked the guy from AMD something along the lines of "you said that Mantle would be open spec, where's the documentation?". To this he replied that we should be seeing docs this winter (December +/- one month)

I really hope that's going to happen. I would not mind seeing two, well supported 3D APIs on Linux systems.

[float]

If that's the situation then we really need Mantle on Linux.

Or Direct3D 12 maybe

[sirdilznik]

That timeline sounds reasonable, things of this complexity don't happen overnight.

[johnc]

Sounds about right. The announcement seemed to be a bit of a hobbled-together mess and more of a knee-jerk reaction to D3D12 and Mantle and Metal rather than having any serious reason for it.

In the meantime all the new GPU functionality will continue to be exposed through extensions.

[godlike_panos]

OpenGL next is moving full speed ahead after AMD giving Khronos group access to Mantle. Mr Geldreich left Valve around that time and that probably implies that he lost his Khronos membership around that time as well. If that is true then he is probably unaware of what happened after AMD's move. With all that said his 3+ estimate is not based on facts but it's a personal opinion based on a incomplete picture.

OpenGL-next is in heavy development and that is a fact. Everything else concerning Mr Geldreich is an assumption.

[maslascher]

OpenGL next is moving full speed ahead after AMD giving Khronos group access to Mantle. Mr Geldreich left Valve around that time and that probably implies that he lost his Khronos membership around that time as well. If that is true then he is probably unaware of what happened after AMD's move. With all that said his 3+ estimate is not based on facts but it's a personal opinion based on a incomplete picture.

OpenGL-next is in heavy development and that is a fact. Everything else concerning Mr Geldreich is an assumption.

Yep. The truth is that only Khronos Group knows when OpenGL Next will be ready. But if I had to guess than I would say at least year for API and another year for silicon support. Can't wait to see that.

[dh04000]

With all that said his 3+ estimate is not based on facts but it's a personal opinion based on a incomplete picture. OpenGL-next is in heavy development and that is a fact. Everything else concerning Mr Geldreich is an assumption.

Considering no one has a working crystal ball..... everyone's prediction of when OpenGL-Next is coming out is a guess at best. Remember when Wayland was going to be in use in Distro's and used by most applications in 2 years according to developers back in 2008? Remember how it is 2014 now?

All developers are on Valve Time.

[magika]

>Mantle on linux.
>D3D12

How about no?