Microsoft Announces... Windows 10 With A Start Menu

[leech]

So... how is it that Microsoft thinks people would allow them to literally watch everything they do on their computer "in realtime!"?

I would seriously want to set up a bot computer that all it does is browse porn all day so that their monitoring system would tell the developers that they need to make browsing porn more optimal.

[stiiixy]

So... how is it that Microsoft thinks people would allow them to literally watch everything they do on their computer "in realtime!"?

I would seriously want to set up a bot computer that all it does is browse porn all day so that their monitoring system would tell the developers that they need to make browsing porn more optimal.

One less add would improve porn-viewing by 1%. One more add, one more %.

[balouba]

Meh, finally, proper manual tiling of windows and virtual desktops.. that maybe will be done properly unlike the sharewares.
Finally, metro apps in a window. Like it should be.

And.. I dont know if i like tiles in the start menu. Bet there will be hacks to disable it if they dont provide the feature. stuff moving is annoying. Nobody wants constantly moving stuff in the start menu IMO.
Now if they could also fix notifications ...

[varikonniemi]

Ugh, this is not great news for free software.

I was really hoping Ubuntu would be the first to achieve true convergence, but obviously most users and enterprises will prefer Windows if it's already available.

Why do you call what windows is doing true convergence? Windows NT kernel and windows RT kernel have very little in common besides the name. In Ubuntu land they use the exact same stack on PC and phone. So all existing gnu/linux software will work on the ubuntu phone, while winrt needs all custom software and has no chance in hell to work with winnt binaries.

[geearf]

I would seriously want to set up a bot computer that all it does is browse porn all day so that their monitoring system would tell the developers that they need to make browsing porn more optimal.

I've actually talked with one high dev of bing and was told that bing is actually heavily optimized for porn, and better at it than google, but that is not a domain that they can advertise...

[Apopas]

Wrong, they did not ditch "metro" they improved it...

Nope, they ditched it.
Their idea for metro was a desktop without menu and now they decided to put it back. That means they ditched the idea.

Anyway, these hundreds of squares around taskbar and desktop, looks a hell ugly to me!!!

[emblemparade]

Why do you call what windows is doing true convergence? Windows NT kernel and windows RT kernel have very little in common besides the name. In Ubuntu land they use the exact same stack on PC and phone. So all existing gnu/linux software will work on the ubuntu phone, while winrt needs all custom software and has no chance in hell to work with winnt binaries.

I think you missed what Windows 10 is about.

Right now, Windows 8.1 converges the tablet and desktop/laptop experience, but Windows 10 will also run on phones. (Forget about Windows RT: that was a compromise because x86 was not as good as ARM in terms of power and battery use. But x86 has caught up in all respects, meaning that upcoming devices would be able to full range of all of Windows software.) So, plug your Windows phone (x86, not ARM/RT) into a dock and get a full working experience. Plug it into a tablet shell and turn it into a tablet (BlackBerry phones can do this now).

Ubuntu does not have the *complete* stack running everywhere, because it's missing the UI. Unity will eventually run on all three environments (tablet/phone/desktop) but it's not there yet.

Actually, I personally would be happy with what I call "90% convergence", meaning that it would be possible to just use a different shell in different environments. So, when I use my Ubuntu phone as a phone, it would be Unity (or some alternative phone UI), and when I plug it into the dock it would switch to Xfce. Sure, it's nice to have seamless integration, but having different shells is totally acceptable for me, personally, as long as I have all my files and user accounts and background services and stuff. I currently own a netbook (Ubuntu), an Android tablet and an Android phone. I dream of replacing all three of these with a single Ubuntu phone with attachments to allow for tablet and laptop usage, which I often need.

Unfortunately, the Ubuntu phones coming out soon won't have even 90% convergence. They will be only phones.

[Kivada]

7, 8, 8.1, 8.1.1, 10

Being this consistent...

Vista = 6.0
7 = 6.1
8 = 6.2
8.1 = 6.3

All have been shit.

[Apopas]

instead of the death by a thousand failed forks we now have.

Like?

[dungeon]

This will be most popular article for October