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  • Nobu
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    You can't expect software to work well when you abuse its features. This goes for systemd and the Linux kernel, and any software, honestly.

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  • b15hop
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    Originally posted by Luke View Post
    Perhaps systemd, especially when used with Dracut, is like those Polynesian outrigger canoes that were used to travel the entire Pacific. These were fast multihulls that were vulnerable to storms but could often outrun them. By comparison, SysVinit would be a round-bowed, deep hulled ship that always gets there no matter what the weather but takes nearly a month to cross the Atlantic. Maybe when Systemd matures it will be like a clipper ship, with the best attributes of each.
    A man of my own heart.

    Off topic - I guess if this were like a space ship, we would all choose the reliable ship vs the one with the most cool features or fastest ETA time.

    Otherwise on topic .. If SystemD is still this bad then maybe it should still be considered experimental.

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  • Luke
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    The fastest boats are often rocky

    Originally posted by b15hop View Post
    SystemD to me has always been a rocky boat. When it does work, it's lightning fast though. So they must be doing something right...
    Perhaps systemd, especially when used with Dracut, is like those Polynesian outrigger canoes that were used to travel the entire Pacific. These were fast multihulls that were vulnerable to storms but could often outrun them. By comparison, SysVinit would be a round-bowed, deep hulled ship that always gets there no matter what the weather but takes nearly a month to cross the Atlantic. Maybe when Systemd matures it will be like a clipper ship, with the best attributes of each.

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  • b15hop
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    SystemD to me has always been a rocky boat. When it does work, it's lightning fast though. So they must be doing something right...

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  • gens
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    Originally posted by droste View Post
    I typed the three letters on my own...

    And I'm not going to argue about this with you. There's is absolutely nothing I can say to change your mind and I don't want to. You don't like Lennart and systemd, fine.
    I was just replying to curaga who stated that there are way more flamewars regarding systemd than upstart. Which is correct by my observation and it's also my observation that many attacks are against Lennart and not systemd. So it doesn't matter what he does, it will cause flamewars.
    thank you for the civil response, it's refreshing
    i thought it was a reply to me as mine was the last post
    so my bad for confusion i guess

    yes, it would be hard to change my opinion as it is about design (over engineering that is, a common problem)

    also yes
    another common problem
    unfortunately critical thinking is not the strong side of the general public
    generalization is no solution unfortunately (as it is double edged)

    since i am pretending to be smart here, id like to point out that none of us know Lennart good enough to claim what we say
    it could be just that sudden fame hit hes head for 15min and it got recorded (i seen him being "human" a couple times)
    (i'l still keep my opinion as he once publicly interrupted a competent person that was explaining some obvious shortcomings(unrelated to systemd); hard to forget that for me)

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  • droste
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    I typed the three letters on my own...

    And I'm not going to argue about this with you. There's is absolutely nothing I can say to change your mind and I don't want to. You don't like Lennart and systemd, fine.
    I was just replying to curaga who stated that there are way more flamewars regarding systemd than upstart. Which is correct by my observation and it's also my observation that many attacks are against Lennart and not systemd. So it doesn't matter what he does, it will cause flamewars.

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  • gens
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    haha
    mind pointing it out at least ?
    since you are so smart copy pasting latin expressions, making a valid case should not be a problem for you
    (i'l ignore the obvious ad hominem attack this time)

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  • droste
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    Not sure what you are trying to say, you already proofed my point

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  • gens
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    Ei incumbit probatio qui dicit, non qui negat

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  • droste
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    q.e.d.

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