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  • Broken by design: systemd

    Then again, there is this:
    http://ewontfix.com/14/

    ...jus' sayin'.

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    • Originally posted by scjet View Post
      Then again, there is this:
      http://ewontfix.com/14/

      ...jus' sayin'.
      Yes, an article devoid of concrete detail. An article that says systemd can't be restarted and then mentions how to restart systemd. An article that shows a minimal init, while completely ignoring the complexity and fragility of the scripts framework you have to put on top of that init to actually have it do something.

      So you'll have to be sayin' more than just pointing out that link, which I'm sure has been mentioned in this thread already.

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      • Originally posted by scjet View Post
        Then again, there is this:
        http://ewontfix.com/14/

        ...jus' sayin'.
        Putting something on a web page doesn't automatically make it true.

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        • Originally posted by oleid View Post
          Putting something on a web page doesn't automatically make it true.
          Sure, unless of course, if the web-page was put up by one-sided "systemd-fanboys" heaping glorious, (but obviously misplaced) praise for systemd, then that would be "true" too,
          right !?

          -Well, then it goes "both" ways sunshine.

          jus' sayin'.

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          • Originally posted by Gusar View Post
            Yes, an article devoid of concrete detail. An article that says systemd can't be restarted and then mentions how to restart systemd. An article that shows a minimal init, while completely ignoring the complexity and fragility of the scripts framework you have to put on top of that init to actually have it do something.

            So you'll have to be sayin' more than just pointing out that link, which I'm sure has been mentioned in this thread already.
            "...ignoring the complexity and fragility of the scripts framework..." - that so-called foundation(of simple init scripts) has been in place, and has worked flawlessly for over 30 years, in the "real" unix/linux world.
            Your "systemd", has to learn to curb their arrogance and admit their mistakes, and then FIX they're buggy crap, or else.
            Cause nobody wants a potential "systemd" heartbleed, ...

            Systemd is simply a "tool" to make a "dev's" programming world easier to manage, and unfortunately "control", with their binary-non-portable bloberia
            -sadly their isn;t anything more about it, except the obvous UN-needed complexity of itself. -get it ?

            ,,, and sorry clyde, but that link is the first here, in this thread, -don't like it? then don't read it, and continue pretending it's all wrong.
            Last edited by scjet; 05-01-2014, 12:22 PM.

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            • Originally posted by scjet View Post
              that so-called foundation(of simple init scripts) has been in place, and has worked flawlessly for over 30 years
              There are a lot of sysadmins who would take a big exception to that "flawlessly" claim.

              Originally posted by scjet View Post
              Your "systemd", has to learn to curb their arrogance and admit their mistakes, and then FIX they're buggy crap, or else.
              Or else you'll write another ranty comment on a forum?

              Originally posted by scjet View Post
              Systemd is simply a "tool" to make a "dev's" programming world easier to manage, and unfortunately "control", with their binary-non-portable bloberia
              -sadly their isn;t anything more about it, except the obvous UN-needed complexity of itself. -get it ?
              Yes, I get that you're making some vague unsubstantiated claims that might sound good to you, but are completely devoid of any substance. I'm surprised you didn't put a RedHat/NSA conspiracy theory in there while you were at it.

              Originally posted by scjet View Post
              ,,, and sorry clyde, but that link is the first here, in this thread, -don't like it? then don't read it, and continue pretending it's all wrong.
              And here you enter the WTF territory. There's no head or tail to this sentence, it makes no sense whatsoever. So... WTF??

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              • Originally posted by Gusar View Post
                There are a lot of sysadmins who would take a big exception to that "flawlessly" claim.

                1./ -> Or else you'll write another ranty comment on a forum?

                2./ ->Yes, I get that you're making some vague unsubstantiated claims that might sound good to you, but are completely devoid of any substance. I'm surprised you didn't put a RedHat/NSA conspiracy theory in there while you were at it.

                3./ ->And here you enter the WTF territory. There's no head or tail to this sentence, it makes no sense whatsoever. So... WTF??
                ?
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                (1./)- On the contrary, you're wrong, right now, there is a lot of sysadmins, who most evidently, don't even "care" about systenD'uih. To them. it's about "ADMISTERING", with full control, the machine simply. it was about "KISS", but now it's about control.
                Future sysadmins will decide how viable/controllable systemd really is, if they even have a freekin' chioce ?!
                Until then, as now, it's not so user-freindly is it?, in fact, it's NOT even "Linus" freindly right now. ?
                BTW -you have no legitimate proof whatsover, regarding the maojority of what unix-sysadmins views on systmed are, as nor I,
                but since you brought it up, I might as well counter with the same amount of legitamacy.
                -grow-up man.

                Systemd devs, WILL get over their ego's, and they(Kay, ... whoever) WILL work, (with Linus), to FIX their issues. I guess I said that too harshly before ?

                (2./)- truth is, you need to get over yourself, and the fact that systemd is far from perferct, yet, if ever? Did I mention "RedHat/NSA conspiracy theory.." -NO, did I mention the "IBM/Windowization of Redhat" ? -NO, did I mention ....? -categorically NO>
                in fact, you did, not me.

                (3/) uhh ok, well wtf, here it is again, in case you purposely misread my link, the first time: http://ewontfix.com/14/

                The truth is, systemd needs to be more "accountable" and fix their own buggy-crap,
                and you sir, need to stop deep-throating the folks of systemd so much.
                Be a little more "Open"-minded and fair, like I am.
                Last edited by scjet; 05-01-2014, 01:20 PM.

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                • Originally posted by scjet View Post
                  -grow-up man.
                  Originally posted by scjet View Post
                  - truth is, you need to get over yourself
                  Originally posted by scjet View Post
                  and you sir, need to stop deep-throating
                  Originally posted by scjet View Post
                  Be a little more "Open"-minded and fair, like I am.
                  Yeah...

                  I could write something more, but those quotes speak for themselves. You have nothing. Just rants, insults and ad-hominems. The last thing you have is "open-mindedness".
                  Last edited by Gusar; 05-01-2014, 01:37 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by Gusar View Post
                    Yeah...

                    I could write something more, but those quotes speak for themselves. You have nothing. Just rants, insults and ad-hominems. The last thing you have is "open-mindedness".
                    Well, that's atleast better than "open-mindLESSness"
                    -did u hear me now ?
                    Last edited by scjet; 05-01-2014, 01:44 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by scjet View Post
                      Sure, unless of course, if the web-page was put up by one-sided "systemd-fanboys" heaping glorious, (but obviously misplaced) praise for systemd, then that would be "true" too,
                      right !?

                      -Well, then it goes "both" ways sunshine.

                      jus' sayin'.
                      1. I'm not your sunshine.

                      2. Sure, you always have to consider who is writing and if this person is in a position to say something sensible on the very topic.

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