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  • 89c51
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    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
    Their moms pack them one every day.
    i give you two internets

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  • joh22n
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    If I understand it correctly then there are just a few preloaded bookmarks/tiles when you open a fresh profile. What the hell are people getting upset about?

    Internets.....

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  • smitty3268
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    Originally posted by MartinN View Post
    ... here on phoronix, many people actually believe that there is such a thing as a free lunch.
    Their moms pack them one every day.

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  • MartinN
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    Originally posted by mark45 View Post
    The foundation might be non-profit, but the main workers (programmers) are (always) paid and paid well, if you don't want childish source code in the browser you better have a paid project rather than a testing minefield for hobbyists.
    Truth is, regardless of what a working group is called - a "foundation for homeless children" or "organization for preserving democracy" - its members are almost always paid, and usually well paid. Nobody works for free, not in capitalism nor in socialism.

    The problem is finding the golden middle where you can earn enough yet not be an ads circus.
    ... here on phoronix, many people actually believe that there is such a thing as a free lunch.

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  • bockscar
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    Originally posted by Detructor View Post
    erh that's just wrong.

    NK is a dictatorship, that can't be communism by definition.

    And Cuba is a mix of socialism and dictatorship
    There is no good example of true Socialism or Communism. North Korea and Cuba are extremely poor examples because both have extremely strong and authoritarian governments which is perhaps Socialism but not at all Communism. I think Venezuela is probably the best example of Socialism, and even that is a bad example. There has never been a good example of Communism to compare anything against.

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  • smitty3268
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    Originally posted by Detructor View Post
    erh that's just wrong.

    NK is a dictatorship, that can't be communism by definition.

    And Cuba is a mix of socialism and dictatorship
    There's a difference between political systems - democracy, dictatorship, etc. - and economic systems - capitalism, socialism, communism, etc.

    You can't conflate the two - saying NK is a dictatorship instead of communism is nonsense.

    Well, ok, communism had a political side to it as well, but that's besides the point here.

    As of now, no country was ever communist driven as it's only possible with robotic technology.
    No country has ever been pure anything. It's impossible. The various systems are described as an idealized reality, there is always compromises of some sort or another in any real world system.

    Current US system isn't pure capitalism, for example, because that would by definition have no government regulations on anything and there would be no government programs, subsidies, or tax breaks anywhere either.
    Last edited by smitty3268; 02-12-2014, 04:37 PM.

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  • bockscar
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    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
    So really, Chrome is already doing the exact same advertisements that Firefox is adding, the only difference is that they are advertising Google websites only, while Firefox will presumably have some more variety.
    This also applies to sites using Google ads and Adwords. Mozilla is basically implementing a very lite version of what Chrome already does and people get upset about it. Maybe Mozilla should just pull a Google and not officially announce it.

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  • Detructor
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    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
    Well, they are the last great bastions of communism, now that china is experimenting with capitalism.

    Although i suspect most of the posters on here wouldn't like communism either. They're more anti-corporatism than pro-anything. And i further suspect that's mainly just because corporatism dominates the current world. Whatever is used most places is automatically hated by a lot of people. There isn't any magical perfect system that everyone would like.
    erh that's just wrong.

    NK is a dictatorship, that can't be communism by definition.

    And Cuba is a mix of socialism and dictatorship

    As of now, no country was ever communist driven as it's only possible with robotic technology. As long as even one human has to work to keep the society alive, communism isn't possible. Robotics solve that problem because once they're all set up, you don't need humans anymore for resource harvesting/producing goods.

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  • smitty3268
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    Originally posted by bockscar View Post
    People who think switching from Firefox to Chrome is the way to go need to read a little bit about the purpose of Chrome. Every single thing you type into Chrome gets fed back to Google so they can market new ads to you based on what you type (not necessarily just what you search). So, Firefox puts ads on the "new tab" page while Chrome puts ads pretty much everywhere else.
    On the Chrome new tab page, i have links showing up to Google search, GMail, Youtube, and something called the Chrome Web Store. I don't even know what that is, so i'm pretty sure i didn't go there and have it added to my list.

    So really, Chrome is already doing the exact same advertisements that Firefox is adding, the only difference is that they are advertising Google websites only, while Firefox will presumably have some more variety.

    I guess i don't really have a problem with this as long as it stays limited, obviously labelled, and non-irritating. It sounds like it will be that way to start. The real concern is if they let things go and treat this as a slippery slope that they can keep making a little worse each release. Hopefully that won't happen.
    Last edited by smitty3268; 02-12-2014, 04:15 PM.

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  • bockscar
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    People who think switching from Firefox to Chrome is the way to go need to read a little bit about the purpose of Chrome. Every single thing you type into Chrome gets fed back to Google so they can market new ads to you based on what you type (not necessarily just what you search). So, Firefox puts ads on the "new tab" page while Chrome puts ads pretty much everywhere else.

    Also to the anti-capitalists, again you need to read a bit more about what capitalism means. Capitalism is about choice. For example, Mozilla is choosing to embed ads in their web browsers and you are choosing to not use their web browser based on that choice. That is Capitalism (free market, actually, but yeah).

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