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  • #41
    Originally posted by Detructor View Post
    erh that's just wrong.

    NK is a dictatorship, that can't be communism by definition.

    And Cuba is a mix of socialism and dictatorship
    There's a difference between political systems - democracy, dictatorship, etc. - and economic systems - capitalism, socialism, communism, etc.

    You can't conflate the two - saying NK is a dictatorship instead of communism is nonsense.

    Well, ok, communism had a political side to it as well, but that's besides the point here.

    As of now, no country was ever communist driven as it's only possible with robotic technology.
    No country has ever been pure anything. It's impossible. The various systems are described as an idealized reality, there is always compromises of some sort or another in any real world system.

    Current US system isn't pure capitalism, for example, because that would by definition have no government regulations on anything and there would be no government programs, subsidies, or tax breaks anywhere either.
    Last edited by smitty3268; 02-12-2014, 04:37 PM.

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    • #42
      Originally posted by Detructor View Post
      erh that's just wrong.

      NK is a dictatorship, that can't be communism by definition.

      And Cuba is a mix of socialism and dictatorship
      There is no good example of true Socialism or Communism. North Korea and Cuba are extremely poor examples because both have extremely strong and authoritarian governments which is perhaps Socialism but not at all Communism. I think Venezuela is probably the best example of Socialism, and even that is a bad example. There has never been a good example of Communism to compare anything against.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by mark45 View Post
        The foundation might be non-profit, but the main workers (programmers) are (always) paid and paid well, if you don't want childish source code in the browser you better have a paid project rather than a testing minefield for hobbyists.
        Truth is, regardless of what a working group is called - a "foundation for homeless children" or "organization for preserving democracy" - its members are almost always paid, and usually well paid. Nobody works for free, not in capitalism nor in socialism.

        The problem is finding the golden middle where you can earn enough yet not be an ads circus.
        ... here on phoronix, many people actually believe that there is such a thing as a free lunch.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by MartinN View Post
          ... here on phoronix, many people actually believe that there is such a thing as a free lunch.
          Their moms pack them one every day.

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          • #45
            If I understand it correctly then there are just a few preloaded bookmarks/tiles when you open a fresh profile. What the hell are people getting upset about?

            Internets.....

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            • #46
              Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
              Their moms pack them one every day.
              i give you two internets

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              • #47
                Nothing in the world is even remotely close to resembling a free market. EVERY economy is either centrally planned or mixed with strong elements of central planning. Even money itself is a state-run enterprise and competition is often illegal or intentially regulated or bullied out of existance. The whole idea that free markets is a failure is non-sense. Nearly all of the arguments against free markets are really arguments against mixed markets. At the end of the day, you either believe in liberty, authority, or a combination of the two. Btw, even utopian anarcho syndicalist communities have majorites that impose their will on minorities, especially the individual.

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                • #48
                  I honestly cannot believe the insanity and chaos coming from this.

                  1: It costs money for Mozilla to do stuff, and they're going to be doing even more work because of their new Rust language.
                  Mozilla was making most of their money through Google anyways.
                  Google being the default search and being used in Firefox meant $$ for Mozilla which is good for all of us web browser users.

                  2: Chrome itself is Google search, and Google search is driven by Ads, and Ads is how Google makes money.
                  Firefox has default Google search, which is driven by Ads, and Ads is how Google and Mozilla make money.
                  It's just different ads. Rev it down.

                  3: Settle down and post your Capitalism/Socialism stuff in another thread. Whether something is right or not we can debate over but it doesn't change the fact that these developers need money. The theory of Capitalism and the Free Market is that if you have a better product, you will be making more money. We all know that it doesn't always work like that in the real world, so please, organize your thoughts and debates just a little so I don't have an aneurysm trying to make sense of it all.
                  Last edited by profoundWHALE; 02-12-2014, 04:54 PM.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by ObiWan View Post
                    It's just some default bookmarks on the new tab page, like Opera, nothing to really worry about.
                    And only on fresh profiles.
                    This ^
                    Back to the topic at hand (how did this get turned into a governmental discussion?), these are only showing pre-pinned sites (like Amazon, Ebay, whatever) in the new tab place FOR NEW PROFILES. If you're a person who's already pinned tabs to all 9 (or more, if you added more via about:config) then it won't affect you. If you create a new profile, it will show pre-pinned sites that you can quickly get rid of (by unpinning them). Seriously guys, way to make a big deal out of nothing.

                    As for the person who suggested Google might have stopped paying them, I'm sure Microsoft would jump at the chance to get in as Firefox's default search.

                    With this, they can get some extra money from, say, Amazon without it being related to search but with it being literally a single click to get rid of if users don't want it.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                      Their moms pack them one every day.

                      touch?. You've won the Series of Tubes ? award.

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