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  • Originally posted by Ouroboros View Post
    Did you not create a thread yesterday bashing systemd and the FOSS developer Lennart Poettering?
    I got a bit mad when he mentioned writing a c library and an email programming for systemd
    Turns out it was an April fool's joke

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    • Originally posted by Honton View Post
      I really enjoyed how you managed to dismiss several sources and the come up with an opposite conclusion. What was your point again? Oh and please stop talking about the commit straw man. The rest of us talk about contributors.
      Another day, another KDE release, close to 18 years now. 17 years of GNOME trying to kill it have apparently been very successful.

      It's time to fuel up the FUD machine, because it's not working well. You keep telling us it's dead, yet they keep on releasing stuff -- just the other day Krita released a new version.

      You are the least reliable source of information on the Internet. Every day you tell us it's dead, and every day you're wrong.

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      • true that

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        • Originally posted by Honton View Post
          You make your own conclusions by twisting my words.
          Your words are "GNOME kills KDE".

          Not "GNOME is killing KDE".

          And I see neither, really. KDE is happily releasing updates to the stable branch, and alphas for the new, next-generation desktop. Important KDE apps like Krita are coming out regularly.

          KDE is more alive than ever.

          I never said Gnome have been killing KDE for 17 years.
          You don't have to, that is why the ex-Microsoft employee Miguel de Icaza started the GNOME project in the first place. That much is common knowledge.

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          • Oh let's just agree that Honton is right and KDE is dying. After all also Honton is dying. Everybody is dying starting from the very first day. For some it takes longer, for some it takes shorter. But quite certainly KDE will die at some day and thus Honton is right that KDE is dying.

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            • Originally posted by Honton View Post
              Instead of wasting time discussing semantics you should remove some more features from KDE.
              Oh, so this is a "removing features is bad" week again?

              Like when you ran a holy war against people who wanted the classic GNOME session. And then when it got re-added due to popular demand, you jumped ship again...

              It's hard to keep up, sometimes you want more features, sometimes fewer. It would be easier if you made up your mind and advocated a consistent position instead of making things up as you go along.

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              • Originally posted by Honton View Post
                Instead of wasting time discussing semantics you should remove some more features from KDE.
                fun fact, I just did that :-P https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116636/

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                • Originally posted by Honton View Post
                  I really enjoyed how you managed to dismiss several sources and the come up with an opposite conclusion. What was your point again? Oh and please stop talking about the commit straw man. The rest of us talk about contributors.
                  Dear Honton,

                  why should he not dismiss those sources, when you yet have to show us, how they make "Gnome kill KDE" or "KDE dying"?
                  Let?s sum up your facts:

                  - 2 Enterprise distros STAY with Gnome = no change, but to die is a severe change = argument invalid for your thesis
                  - 1 distro (debian) does not switch to KDE = no change = argument invalid for your thesis
                  - 1 distro with kde died = and no distro with Gnome ever died? = argument invalid for your thesis
                  - 1 distro switched to Gnome = there are also distros switching from Gnome (ubuntu, maybe debian 8); or distros that chose KDE over Gnome (like manjaro, only Gnome-community edition) = argument weak for your thesis
                  - 2 distros where KDE (might) lose QA = I found no source for openSUSE changing KDE QA and the "might" for Fedora.next is still a "might" = argument weak for your thesis
                  - Qt has CLA = offtopic
                  - Oloh developer numbers = kde digest (more accurate) shows: KDE developer numbers dropped from 250 (2008) to 200 (2011) to 160 (2013) = this is your only valid argument, but it is still only a very slow death and the standard deviation with 35 is quite high. Come back again when developer count dropped below 100.

                  Honton, this is my last reply to you until you bring NEW facts. roll_eyes

                  cheers, tomme

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                  • Originally posted by mgraesslin View Post
                    fun fact, I just did that :-P https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/116636/
                    there also should be an "auto" option for users who don?t know what opengl is...

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                    • Originally posted by tomtomme View Post
                      there also should be an "auto" option for users who don?t know what opengl is...
                      That's what we have defaults for ;-) By default (and default meaning user doesn't touch anything) KWin picks the best fitting settings for the user's system. To ensure that users don't needless play with these settings we plan to split the configuration module into one dedicated to the effects and one dedicated to the advanced settings.

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