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  • Originally posted by Panix View Post
    KDE is Krap! Aka POS. KDE is bloated garbage and I think it'll go downhill even more. It's the only DE that can't detect smartphones properly. Tested with Krapbuntu and another KDE-centric distro, siduction. I wonder if OpenSUSE would detect it. Probably not. I do hope Gnome kills it off.
    yeah opensuse works just fine.
    kubunut is known to be crap and siduction is beta-quality as you should know, if you install such a unstable crap.

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    • If only Gnome could kill this thread...

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      • Originally posted by tomtomme View Post
        yeah opensuse works just fine.
        kubunut is known to be crap and siduction is beta-quality as you should know, if you install such a unstable crap.
        I'll try it (OpenSUSE and Fedora) with KDE and see what happens. Also, I am going to try siduction with gnome to compare.

        Mint (LMDE) and its Ubuntu-base version both work fine with Cinnamon and MATE. Ubuntu w/ Gnome also works.

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        • Originally posted by Panix View Post
          KDE is Krap! Aka POS. KDE is bloated garbage and I think it'll go downhill even more. It's the only DE that can't detect smartphones properly. Tested with Krapbuntu and another KDE-centric distro, siduction. I wonder if OpenSUSE would detect it. Probably not. I do hope Gnome kills it off.
          Let me guess, you have a Samsung smartphone. Samsung's MTP stack is broken, this is a well-known problem.

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          • Originally posted by TheBlackCat View Post
            Let me guess, you have a Samsung smartphone. Samsung's MTP stack is broken, this is a well-known problem.
            No, ehhhhhhhhh, wrong. But, even if I did, so what? Did you not read that my experience is it working in Ubuntu Gnome and Mint w/ Cinnnamon? Although, I have had some issues with image viewers in Mint. The fact remains, there are some configurations that prevent it from working - so if the 'MTP stack is broken', it is not working with various configurations.

            I tried OpenSUSE w/ KDE and it is as slow as molasses. An initial bootup, the resolution was wrong and the graphics was all distorted. Booting up again, I disabled KMS. But, the resolution (detected) was incorrect. The phone worked. But, when I tried to select the right resolution of my monitor, my experience this time was similar to using Kubuntu. What was worse, though, the latest bootup, there was no ethernet connection.

            I have an Android phone but it's pretty bad that you have to run through hoops to access your phone.

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            • http://forums.opensuse.org/showthrea...ght=smartphone

              So, it doesn't work then? The last post in Oct '13 and no one replies afterwards to say anything different? So, like I said, KDE sucks.

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              • Originally posted by tomtomme View Post
                kubunut is known to be crap
                "Known" by whom? Have you tried it lately? Works very well here.

                Originally posted by tomtomme View Post
                and siduction is beta-quality
                Debian Sid is actually pretty stable.

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                • Originally posted by Panix View Post
                  KDE is Krap! Aka POS. KDE is bloated garbage and I think it'll go downhill even more. It's the only DE that can't detect smartphones properly. Tested with Krapbuntu and another KDE-centric distro, siduction. I wonder if OpenSUSE would detect it. Probably not. I do hope Gnome kills it off.
                  Huh; I just plugged in a Nexus 7 into a Kubuntu 13.10 install, and it works flawlessly from what I've seen (can't say the same for XFCE and/or LXDE).

                  I'm thinking either your phone has a weird MTP implementation, you have/had an improperly configured and/or outdated KDE install, or there's something I didn't test that's very broken (my N7 was detected, I went into it via KDE's file manager (Dolphin?), opened a picture (it loaded fine), and copied a picture to my desktop, which kept the same filename and loaded fine). Or you're just greatly over-exaggerating, but I don't know.

                  If you're going to state something is problematic, at least say what the problem is.

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                  • Originally posted by steveriley View Post
                    "Known" by whom? Have you tried it lately? Works very well here.
                    good to hear. I heard so many people complaing about it over the years. I tried it once, but that was some years ago. So sorry that my comment sounded so negative.
                    Originally posted by steveriley View Post
                    Debian Sid is actually pretty stable.
                    Stable maybe, but what I meant was: Is it bug-free enough for productive use? Isn?t it derived from debian unstable? So stable / bug-free-enough =! pretty stable - right? I would assume it may be on the same level with opensuse tumbleweed, and yes that is pretty stable too. But not stable ALL the time. Even a "normal" opensuse release is not stable / bug free if it is brand new... same for windows or any other OS.

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                    • Originally posted by tomtomme View Post
                      Stable maybe, but what I meant was: Is it bug-free enough for productive use? Isn?t it derived from debian unstable? So stable / bug-free-enough =! pretty stable - right? I would assume it may be on the same level with opensuse tumbleweed, and yes that is pretty stable too. But not stable ALL the time. Even a "normal" opensuse release is not stable / bug free if it is brand new... same for windows or any other OS.
                      The fun thing is: Ubuntu is also derived from Debian Unstable (except the LTS versions), so you can say exactly the same about Ubuntu.

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