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  • DaemonFC
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    Originally posted by Michael View Post
    Kontera ads are not even displayed as long as you've been logged into the forums recently... It's automatically turned off if you have the Phoronix Forums user cookie set.

    What's the problem with seeing Microsoft ads? No one is forcing you to click it and I don't believe I have ever seen an intrusive Microsoft ad, yet they pay a fair amount of money compared to some of the other companies.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYIqoXfPx6o

    Yeah. I think that sums up my objection to Microsoft skyscraper flash ads. Those insipid bandwidth suckers also chew up bandwidth allotment, which must be fun for people on metered connections like some cable companies like to do.

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  • Michael
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    Originally posted by DaemonFC View Post
    I've seen those before. They're lame. Stupid site owner ads dumb script. Site user adds that script to their ad blocking list. Hit reload. Site works without some bitch-whine-moan screen that was coming up before.

    Why can't you simply solve the Microsoft skyscraper ads in Flash problem? That Kontera crap is almost as bad.
    Kontera ads are not even displayed as long as you've been logged into the forums recently... It's automatically turned off if you have the Phoronix Forums user cookie set.

    What's the problem with seeing Microsoft ads? No one is forcing you to click it and I don't believe I have ever seen an intrusive Microsoft ad, yet they pay a fair amount of money compared to some of the other companies.

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  • DaemonFC
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    Originally posted by Michael View Post
    I would hope the proper rich, interactive graphs... I haven't checked out the AdBlock detection scripts yet to see how they work yet (to know whether it would block you even though you have *phoronix* well ultimately *openbenchmarking* whitelisted) or examined AdBlock myself to write a script, but this is just part of the future road-map.
    I've seen those before. They're lame. Stupid site owner ads dumb script. Site user adds that script to their ad blocking list. Hit reload. Site works without some bitch-whine-moan screen that was coming up before.

    Why can't you simply solve the Microsoft skyscraper ads in Flash problem? That Kontera crap is almost as bad.

    Oh wait, I have a better idea. Make them Microsoft skyscraper ads in Silverlight and then direct people to install Mono to view your site. See. You can abuse your users more if you try hard enough.

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  • Michael
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    Originally posted by archibald View Post
    I have adblock installed but disabled on your sites: which graphs would I see?
    I would hope the proper rich, interactive graphs... I haven't checked out the AdBlock detection scripts yet to see how they work yet (to know whether it would block you even though you have *phoronix* well ultimately *openbenchmarking* whitelisted) or examined AdBlock myself to write a script, but this is just part of the future road-map.

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  • archibald
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    Originally posted by Michael View Post
    For those you will either need to have AdBlock not installed OR be a registered member of OpenBenchmarking.org.
    I have adblock installed but disabled on your sites: which graphs would I see?

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  • not.sure
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    Sure, setting the default that way is probably not the right thing to do. But classifying ads on an "annoyance-meter" is an interesting new feature, as long as it's done on technical grounds (animations, colors, XSS...) and not on bribes.

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  • Michael
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    Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
    Thanks for info!



    Michael already uses some anti-adblock protection in form of non-scaling information bars describing the system specs prior to tests. Its SVG graph I think.
    It appears only on pages with his tests on Openbenchmarking.

    How I discovered it? Although I disable Adblock explicitly on phoronix.com, at work the machines are reseted to generic state, so I have to insert noscript and adblock every morning. Once, I forgot to disable adblock after installed and was browsing phoronix...

    As I once mentioned, simple small "Please disable Adblock or consider joining Premium to support this site" text message, non-flashing, small and slick at header would be miles better than vile anti-anti-anti-scripts. My honest opinion..
    Hmmm? Right now with OpenBenchmarking.org graphs there isn't any check for AdBlock at all... But come 2012, with PTS4-generated graphs, there will be really rich and interactive graphs and some other nifty features.... For those you will either need to have AdBlock not installed OR be a registered member of OpenBenchmarking.org, otherwise you're served the current style SVG graphs.

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  • DaemonFC
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    Originally posted by crazycheese View Post
    Thanks for info!



    Michael already uses some anti-adblock protection in form of non-scaling information bars describing the system specs prior to tests. Its SVG graph I think.
    It appears only on pages with his tests on Openbenchmarking.

    How I discovered it? Although I disable Adblock explicitly on phoronix.com, at work the machines are reseted to generic state, so I have to insert noscript and adblock every morning. Once, I forgot to disable adblock after installed and was browsing phoronix...

    As I once mentioned, simple small "Please disable Adblock or consider joining Premium to support this site" text message, non-flashing, small and slick at header would be miles better than vile anti-anti-anti-scripts. My honest opinion..
    Yeah, I wrote a rule for Privoxy that widens them back to normal size and told it to apply that rule to *phoronix*.

    I really need to release my privoxy rules, the only thing stopping me is that they're not all that friendly to apply.

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  • d2kx
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    What a bunch of crap this thread is.

    I'll be allowing acceptable ads when it goes stable.

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  • crazycheese
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    Thanks for info!

    Originally posted by DaemonFC View Post
    On the other hand, if Michael Larabel manages to pony up the dough for a sufficient bribe to Wladimir Palant, I'm sure Phoronix can once again be overflowing with skyscraper Microsoft ads written in Flash.
    Michael already uses some anti-adblock protection in form of non-scaling information bars describing the system specs prior to tests. Its SVG graph I think.
    It appears only on pages with his tests on Openbenchmarking.

    How I discovered it? Although I disable Adblock explicitly on phoronix.com, at work the machines are reseted to generic state, so I have to insert noscript and adblock every morning. Once, I forgot to disable adblock after installed and was browsing phoronix...

    As I once mentioned, simple small "Please disable Adblock or consider joining Premium to support this site" text message, non-flashing, small and slick at header would be miles better than vile anti-anti-anti-scripts. My honest opinion..
    Last edited by crazycheese; 12-11-2011, 04:23 PM.

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