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  • #31
    I'm using adblock and flash block for one reason: I hate flickering stuff all over my screen when I'm trying to read news or watch any interesting video + I hate my computer become slow because of flash ads as they are eating CPU power as hell. This is it.

    On Phoronix there are almost no ads compared to some sites, but as I use FF profile for my personal internet surfing it's turned on by default and I always came here with adblock enabled. Nothing intentional towards this site.

    In my internet surfing history since 1999 or so I have almost never clicked on ads - maybe some by accident or pure curiosity wtf is behind that particular silly thing. So, as I'm not interested in that at all, because I know what I need or want, I just don't turn it off. As simple as that.

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    • #32
      so when was the last time somebody run in a malware loading ad on a legit non-porn related site?

      Never?

      Yeah, thought so.

      If you dislike ads, buy a membership. But not buying one and blocking ads is nothing but parasitism.

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      • #33
        No, not at all. With regards to Adblock and their "reasonable ads", it
        all boils down to a fraudulent attempt at making a buck out of their
        users, who clearly aren't interested in seeing any kind of advertising, or
        else they wouldn't be using this software in the first place. With regards
        to Phoronix, it all boils down to the same kind of people---those who don't
        particularly enjoy being thrown crap down their throats---refusing to abide
        by some inexistent and ridiculous rules whereby having a look at a website
        is only morally allowed if you participate in the ad fest.

        The most interesting sites I visit regularly are completely ad-free, or,
        alternatively, their most interesting contents are provided by users who make
        their contributions for free. Equally, the most interesting bits of Phoronix
        used to be the comments in the forum, although that's not anymore the
        case as nothing is interesting now. I'm not changing the way I surf the web to
        artificially keep the advertising industry profitable, and certainly I won't do
        it to please anyone, especially somebody whose own ineptitude at marketing his
        project and listening to, and communicate with, his own users reaches insulting
        levels.

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        • #34
          you don't want to pay
          you also don't want to see the ads that keep the site running.

          so you don't want to see this site.


          Michael's 'attacks' or 'tricks' are nothing but self defense against parasites who want to get everything for free.

          And this thread shows nicely:

          those parasites not only exist, they are also becoming very vocal when somebody circumvents their attacks.

          Yes attacks. You read and post here. You create costs. But you are also blocking the ads generating money. So your visits and postings are harming the site.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by energyman View Post
            If you dislike ads, buy a membership.
            To be honest I don't think the content offered by phoronix is worth paying for. In fact most content on the web isn't worth paying for. Yeah I use ad-block, don't like it? Put your content behind a paywall, and see 99% of your readers disappear, LOL.

            But not buying one and blocking ads is nothing but parasitism.
            LOL. You really don't want to go there.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by energyman View Post
              so when was the last time somebody run in a malware loading ad on a legit non-porn related site?

              Never?

              Yeah, thought so.

              If you dislike ads, buy a membership. But not buying one and blocking ads is nothing but parasitism.
              Oh just some tiny sites that nobody ever goes to like Google, Yahoo, New York Times and Faux News:
              http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20000898-245.html
              https://www.pcworld.com/article/1601...s_via_ads.html
              http://mashable.com/2009/09/15/new-york-times-malware/

              I'm not paying Larabel till he stops posting sensationalist crap and the review quality goes up to at least the levels of the better Windows hardware sites. I'm not asking for him to build an liquid nitrogen rig like http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/ar...r-CPU-Review/8 just to actually perform tests that will actually show real world usage and to post why X does Y instead of Z in the case of the OSS drivers versus the blobs.

              But instead of making the site better he's opted to make it worse.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by AnonymousCoward View Post
                To be honest I don't think the content offered by phoronix is worth paying for. In fact most content on the web isn't worth paying for. Yeah I use ad-block, don't like it? Put your content behind a paywall, and see 99% of your readers disappear, LOL.



                LOL. You really don't want to go there.
                Yes, I want to go there.

                Michael does not force anybody to pay. So he has to put up ads to keep the site running.

                People like you want the service, generate costs and don't want to give anything back. You act like some ads somewhere are such a big thing - they aren't. All you do is sucking away on his money. Think about that.
                If the 'content' and the service is not worth paying or having some ads - then both are surely not worth coming here in the first place.

                You do. So there is something you like. But you refuse to do your share and instead use up ressources. Parasitism, nothing else.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Kivada View Post
                  Oh just some tiny sites that nobody ever goes to like Google, Yahoo, New York Times and Faux News:
                  http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-20000898-245.html
                  https://www.pcworld.com/article/1601...s_via_ads.html
                  http://mashable.com/2009/09/15/new-york-times-malware/

                  I'm not paying Larabel till he stops posting sensationalist crap and the review quality goes up to at least the levels of the better Windows hardware sites. I'm not asking for him to build an liquid nitrogen rig like http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/ar...r-CPU-Review/8 just to actually perform tests that will actually show real world usage and to post why X does Y instead of Z in the case of the OSS drivers versus the blobs.

                  But instead of making the site better he's opted to make it worse.
                  does he forces you to come here? No? If you dislike the site so much, why are you here in the first place? Creating costs? Oh wait - there is some stuff you like. Not enought to pay for. That is ok. But taking away his only other way to get some money to cover for thoses costs? That is just immoral, dishonest and stupid in your part.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by energyman View Post
                    you don't want to pay
                    you also don't want to see the ads that keep the site running.

                    so you don't want to see this site.

                    Michael's 'attacks' or 'tricks' are nothing but self defense against parasites who want to get everything for free.

                    And this thread shows nicely:

                    those parasites not only exist, they are also becoming very vocal when somebody circumvents their attacks.

                    Yes attacks. You read and post here. You create costs. But you are also blocking the ads generating money. So your visits and postings are harming the site.
                    That's correct, I don't want to pay for reading what's available
                    on this site. As stated above:

                    Originally posted by AnonymousCoward
                    To be honest I don't think the content
                    offered by Phoronix is worth paying for.
                    It's really that simple. I don't think you want to try to convince us of
                    the contrary. If you find it worth paying for, do it. Because I
                    don't, I won't. And again: I won't artificially keep the advertising
                    industry profitable. If the model doesn't work, that's just too
                    bad. I'd be more sympathetic to Phoronix cause if I actually liked
                    what's being done over here and I saw more value to the original
                    contents it offers.

                    You don't have to agree, but actually I think my posts, as well as yours
                    and those of the grey mass of Phoronix readers, enrich this site and provide
                    most of its value.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by energyman View Post
                      Yes, I want to go there.

                      Michael does not force anybody to pay. So he has to put up ads to keep the site running.
                      Of course he doesn't force anybody to pay. Because as soon as he tries (e.g. by means of a paywall) most of his readers will disappear like snow for the sun. So he has no choice but to use the ad-funded business model. That there are some people who are not interested in seeing ads, and subsequently block them, is all in the game.
                      Apparently he gets enough money from ads to keep this site running, so his business model is working and I don't see why you're getting so worked up about all this.

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