Intel CEO Pat Gelsinger Retires

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  • kiffmet
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2016
    • 477

    #31
    Gelsinger ruined a deal with TSMC that had Intel get a price reduction for each wafer by making an unfortunate public statement about Taiwan. Now Intel pays full price… When this happened, I thought "that's it for Pat" - on top of that, his track record during the last 5 years was abysmal.

    Major issues at Intel are political infighting and "yes-men". Issues don't get properly communicated throughout the chain of command and seemingly, there are quite a few people who prefer comfort and trying to "safely" climb the career ladder over actually doing their job. The structures are rotten and have been for years. Every person in a key position will have to be re-evaluated to drain the swamp.
    Last edited by kiffmet; 02 December 2024, 01:58 PM.

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    • avis
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2022
      • 2252

      #32
      Originally posted by Weasel View Post
      No one cares because it's bullshit. That's the reason.

      But you will continue spewing that forever no matter what so keep burying your head in the s̵a̵n̵d̵ Apple's ass.
      Sadly, your comment came across as empty with a dash of insults.

      I've never owned an Apple device in my life. But I've read more than enough reviews where the M4 Pro significantly outperforms everything made by AMD and Intel while offering superior power consumption and battery life.​

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      • sophisticles
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2015
        • 2591

        #33
        Not surprising,

        There was an article not too long ago that if Intel's stock didn't go on an NVIDIA type run that Pat was going to lose 100 million in bonuses.

        There were also reports that he had been offered to use TSMC's fabs but he declined.

        And there were reports that Intel had decided not to attempt to compete with NVIDIA in the high end AI markets and instead concentrate on the lower tier markets, something I do think is a smart strategy.

        Intel has the technology, they need the leadership.

        They know how to design a good product and bring it to market, and I think they will do it.

        2025 should be an interesting year for Intel.

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        • curfew
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 634

          #34
          Originally posted by avis View Post
          People can laugh at me all they want, but when a fruit cult company has a much faster and more efficient uArch (M4 Pro destroys them while consuming much less power) than both Intel and AMD, it should be quite alarming, but for some reason no one cares.
          I guess it's based on the notion of Apple CPUs being "only for laptops" due to certain technical limits. Apple, however, is constantly working on resolving said limits and once they do, that'll be the real absolute breakout.

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          • pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2020
            • 1582

            #35
            Originally posted by Weasel View Post
            No one cares because it's bullshit. That's the reason.

            But you will continue spewing that forever no matter what so keep burying your head in the s̵a̵n̵d̵ Apple's ass.
            The challenge nobody has been able to rise to is matching the complete package of Apple Silicon macBooks in particular. We are talking about...
            • Form factor
            • Battery life (> 12 hours of general office type use)
            • CPU performance
            • GPU performance (especially GPU compute)
            Competitors can do some of these things really well in certain SKUs, but nobody has been able to do all of them. E.g. you can throw an RTX 4090 mobile in a laptop and get excellent GPU compute performance, but you also end up with some chonky gaming / desktop replacement style laptop that lasts 3-4 hours on battery. I have an HP Drangonfly Elite G3 that I picked up super cheap that's really nice. It can do > 12 hours of battery life and the form factor is awesome, but the 2P + 8E CPU can't keep up Apple's M series of the same vintage.

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            • M@GOid
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2014
              • 2083

              #36
              I also think he didn't had the time for turn the company around. Given the time needed to make a new CPU from scratch (like Ryzen), I don't think any of their current offerings started under his time as CEO.

              But that is in the past now. I will leave with his best comment after the release of the 12th gen CPUs: "AMD in the rearview mirror in clients [consumer market]," he adds, "and never again will they be in the windshield".

              And remember folks, it is "chiplet". My pal Pat said so:

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              • ddriver
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2014
                • 713

                #37
                Poo intel... He was just about to fix everything!

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                • ddriver
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 713

                  #38
                  Originally posted by M@GOid View Post
                  I also think he didn't had the time for turn the company around. Given the time needed to make a new CPU from scratch (like Ryzen), I don't think any of their current offerings started under his time as CEO.

                  But that is in the past now. I will leave with his best comment after the release of the 12th gen CPUs: "AMD in the rearview mirror in clients [consumer market]," he adds, "and never again will they be in the windshield".

                  And remember folks, it is "chiplet". My pal Pat said so:

                  So lame. Mocked AMD using MCM for all the right reasons, and then went ahead to use MCM for all the wrong reasons.

                  Amd did it to reduce cost and improve yield. Intel did it to increase cost and butcher their reliability.

                  It is quite amazing that such a rich, powerful and entrenched mega corporation can act so foolishly.

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                  • xhustler
                    Phoronix Member
                    • Jun 2021
                    • 91

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Weasel View Post
                    No one cares because it's bullshit. That's the reason.

                    But you will continue spewing that forever no matter what so keep burying your head in the s̵a̵n̵d̵ Apple's ass.
                    I strongly agree with Avis' perspective on this issue. Whether you love Apple or hate them, they have receipts (M1,M2,M3, M4), period. Doesn't matter how much love one has for Intel, AMD, or Qualcomm, their wares are struggling to catch up with Apple Silicon performance.

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                    • ddriver
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2014
                      • 713

                      #40
                      Originally posted by xhustler View Post

                      I strongly agree with Avis' perspective on this issue. Whether you love Apple or hate them, they have receipts (M1,M2,M3, M4), period. Doesn't matter how much love one has for Intel, AMD, or Qualcomm, their wares are struggling to catch up with Apple Silicon performance.
                      You are misattributing things.

                      Most of their advantage comes from exclusively occupying new process capacity. They are always getting it one full release cycle ahead of everyone else.

                      The rest is their vertical platform integration - they control ALL the HARDWARE and SOFTWARE in their ecosystem. There's no fragmentation, they are not waiting on 3rd parties to catch up. When they hardware accelerate something, they simply change the code path of their system libraries, there's no need for 3rd party app vendors to incorporate the new features.

                      Generic CPU vendors are completely different market, one that doesn't even compete with crapple really. They have to work across a multitude of 3rd hardware and software vendors. This takes a lot more time and resources to facilitate.

                      M series power comes from ASIC acceleration, the cpu cores are quite anemic on their own. AMDs core performance is way stronger, and even power efficiency wise not too far behind despite the big process disadvantage.

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